QTR-Quadtone RIP

I am using a Mac and version 2.6.2 OTR, Photoshop CS3.

Everything was running perfect, then I quit getting a choice to select the QuadTone RIP 
Dialog box when the print driver was up.  It was working well before until I modified a curve 
file I was working on and then installed it.  That is when all of my problems started.  I wasn't 
having any problems creating curve files and installing them before this point.  I tried 
restarting; I ended up deleting the two folders of QTR and reinstalled and set the printer back 
up, and reinstalled my curves that I have been working on.

Now when I get to the QuadTone RIP dialog box and I try to select a curve there is no curves 
to select from; "None" is the only choice.  Not sure why it isn't finding the curves; I'm not sure 
how to tell it where to look for the curve data. 

I was really making some headway, and on my final rounds of tweaking my curves to get the 
maximum dmax before linearization.  This is getting very frustrating.

Thanks,
Randy

I believe I solved my own problem by some trouble shooting.  I'm going to leave this 
message posted in case someone else has, has had or will have this same problem.

To make a long story short, I determined that when you install you curve files, the name 
you give them can't be too long or it will screw up your whole QTR printing system or 
workflow up.  SOLUTION: if you ever run into this problem is to shorten the offending file 
name, delete the offending xxx.quad file, and then simply reinstall your profiles by double 
clicking on the Installxxx.command file your profile/curve folder with your txt files.  After 
this your QTR drivers will work properly again.

Randy


--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Randy Rancier" <randy_rancier2004@...> wrote:
>
> I am using a Mac and version 2.6.2 OTR, Photoshop CS3.
> 
> Everything was running perfect, then I quit getting a choice to select the QuadTone RIP 
> Dialog box when the print driver was up.  It was working well before until I modified a 
curve 
> file I was working on and then installed it.  That is when all of my problems started.  I 
wasn't 
> having any problems creating curve files and installing them before this point.  I tried 
> restarting; I ended up deleting the two folders of QTR and reinstalled and set the printer 
back 
> up, and reinstalled my curves that I have been working on.
> 
> Now when I get to the QuadTone RIP dialog box and I try to select a curve there is no 
curves 
> to select from; "None" is the only choice.  Not sure why it isn't finding the curves; I'm not 
sure 
> how to tell it where to look for the curve data. 
> 
> I was really making some headway, and on my final rounds of tweaking my curves to get 
the 

> maximum dmax before linearization.  This is getting very frustrating.
> 
> Thanks,
> Randy
>

Randy,

Maybe you can help me since you are figuring out some of your own problems.  It seems like 
you are farther along to understanding QTR than I am.  I have the same setup;  CS3 and QTR 
2.6.2 with Mac ver. 10.5.6.

In the print dialog box, I don't even get Quadtone RIP as a choice.  It is available in Lightroom 
and the application 'Preview' but not in CS3.  I don't see it at all.

Do you have any ideas?

Thanks,
David

Randy,

Maybe you can help me since you are figuring out some of your own problems.  It seems like 
you are farther along to understanding QTR than I am.  I have the same setup;  CS3 and QTR 
2.6.2 with Mac ver. 10.5.6.

In the print dialog box, I don't even get Quadtone RIP as a choice.  It is available in Lightroom 
and the application 'Preview' but not in CS3.  I don't see it at all.

Do you have any ideas?

Thanks,
David

what computer and os are you using?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "dharrington213" <pursuinghim@...>
To: <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 10:21 AM
Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Trouble with QuadTone RIP dialog box PROBLEM 
RESOLVED!

> Randy,
>
> Maybe you can help me since you are figuring out some of your own 
> problems.  It seems like
> you are farther along to understanding QTR than I am.  I have the same 
> setup;  CS3 and QTR
> 2.6.2 with Mac ver. 10.5.6.
>
> In the print dialog box, I don't even get Quadtone RIP as a choice.  It is 
> available in Lightroom
> and the application 'Preview' but not in CS3.  I don't see it at all.
>
> Do you have any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
> David
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

i mean is it an intel mac

i installed it on an intel mac 10.5 yesterday  with ethernet printer 
connection  for a lab where they hav tried it several times.
i found that the ip address i put in was not what was showing up the same 
for the printer in sys pref.
i corrected it there and all went fine
skip


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "dharrington213" <pursuinghim@...>
To: <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 10:21 AM
Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Trouble with QuadTone RIP dialog box PROBLEM 
RESOLVED!

> Randy,
>
> Maybe you can help me since you are figuring out some of your own 
> problems.  It seems like
> you are farther along to understanding QTR than I am.  I have the same 
> setup;  CS3 and QTR
> 2.6.2 with Mac ver. 10.5.6.
>
> In the print dialog box, I don't even get Quadtone RIP as a choice.  It is 
> available in Lightroom
> and the application 'Preview' but not in CS3.  I don't see it at all.
>
> Do you have any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
> David
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

David,  Roy inquired about my problem, and this was my reply to him:

Here is the name of the file I was using when the problem started: 
 QTR_1400_UT14_EDSM_cool_1_BstK50_ovrlp5_RR.txt

I believe it is the length of the file name that is important, I don't believe it is compatible 
with CS3 or perhaps the Mac (ver. 10.4.11) print dialog.  I shortened the name too: 
 UT14_EDSM_cool_1_BstK50_ovrlp5_RR.txt  and it worked.  I didn't change any of the 
contents in the file, I just simply changed the name of the file.

The problem started as soon as I installed the curve with the longer file name; not only did 
screw up the function of that profile but the whole Ouad1400-UT14 driver.  After clicking 
on the "Print" in the CS3 dialog box with the QTR driver "Quad1400-UT14" selected, when 
the next "Printer" dialog box came up and you go to the third selection box from the top 
and try to select "QuadTone RIP", it wasn't there as a choice.  To fix the problem I went in 
and deleted all of the "xxx.quad" files in my "Quad1400-UT14" Profile folder, shortened 
the name a bit in the folder with the curve txt files and reinstalled using the install 
command.

I am currently using a file name:  QTR_1400_UT14_EDSM_cool_1_BoostK50_RR.txt   So the 
critical length is somewhere between the number of characters in the first file name 
mentioned above and this one.

Hope this helps,
Randy


--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "dharrington213" <pursuinghim@...> wrote:
>
> Randy,
> 
> Maybe you can help me since you are figuring out some of your own problems.  It seems 
like 
> you are farther along to understanding QTR than I am.  I have the same setup;  CS3 and 
QTR 
> 2.6.2 with Mac ver. 10.5.6.
> 
> In the print dialog box, I don't even get Quadtone RIP as a choice.  It is available in 
Lightroom 

> and the application 'Preview' but not in CS3.  I don't see it at all.
> 
> Do you have any ideas?
> 
> Thanks,
> David
>

I just got a response back from Roy, and this was his reply to me, I don't think he will mind 
me sharing it with you all:

"Thanks, Randy.  I checked it out and there is a limit of 40 chars in the OS
for names in the printer description file -- goes back to an Adobe
definition from long ago.
I'll have to check this and give an error in the future.

I guess you get a prize for the longest name!"

I'm using an iMac with OS 10.5.6.

Yes, it is an intel Mac.  I'm connecting to my Epson 1400 with a USB cable.  

If I try to print from Lightroom or Preview, everything seems to be there. In the Print dialog box there is a drop down 
feature where my choices are:

Layout	
Paper Handling
Cover Page 
Scheduler

Quadtone RIP
Printer Features

Summary


When I choose Quadtone RIP, I have access to the curves features.   

However, in CS3, I am not able to choose Quadtone RIP.  So then, I can't access the curves.









--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "skip crawford" <auntskip2@...> wrote:

>
> i mean is it an intel mac
> 
> i installed it on an intel mac 10.5 yesterday  with ethernet printer 
> connection  for a lab where they hav tried it several times.
> i found that the ip address i put in was not what was showing up the same 
> for the printer in sys pref.
> i corrected it there and all went fine
> skip
> 
>

have you tried uninstalling it and reinstalling......uninstall with the 
uninstall utility you can download  at quadtonerip.com
might fix you up

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "dharrington213" <pursuinghim@...>
To: <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 9:55 AM
Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Trouble with QuadTone RIP dialog box PROBLEM 
RESOLVED!

> Yes, it is an intel Mac.  I'm connecting to my Epson 1400 with a USB 
> cable.
>
> If I try to print from Lightroom or Preview, everything seems to be there. 
> In the Print dialog box there is a drop down
> feature where my choices are:
>
> Layout
> Paper Handling
> Cover Page
> Scheduler
>
> Quadtone RIP
> Printer Features
>
> Summary
>
>
> When I choose Quadtone RIP, I have access to the curves features.
>
> However, in CS3, I am not able to choose Quadtone RIP.  So then, I can't 
> access the curves.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "skip crawford" <auntskip2@...> wrote:
>>
>> i mean is it an intel mac
>>
>> i installed it on an intel mac 10.5 yesterday  with ethernet printer
>> connection  for a lab where they hav tried it several times.
>> i found that the ip address i put in was not what was showing up the same
>> for the printer in sys pref.
>> i corrected it there and all went fine
>> skip
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Page 14 of the Mac OS X Print Tutorial is titled, 'QuadToneRIP Print Dialog Pane'.   

I cannot access this dialog pane except in Lightroom or Preview.

David,

The issue that Randy found was a OSX enforced limit of 40 chars in a curve name.
You'd have to be creating your own curves and use a very long name.

If this is the problem just shorten the name and you'll be fine.
If this isn't the issue, send me info about whatever special things
you are doing if any.
Run the DiagnosticScript that you will find at
/Applications/QuadToneRIP/DiagnosticScript.command
Cut and paste all the text output and email that to me.

Roy

On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 8:55 AM, dharrington213 <pursuinghim@...> wrote:
> Page 14 of the Mac OS X Print Tutorial is titled, 'QuadToneRIP Print Dialog Pane'.
>
> I cannot access this dialog pane except in Lightroom or Preview.
>
>
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>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
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