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module questions

2002-04-19 by peff2cv

Hi

Well, I finally got the chance to see and use a Serge in real life
yesterday thanks to the generousity of Dhyan Moller. Pardon my
excitement, but I'm so blown away by the thing... I didn't get time
to barely scratch the surface of what it can do.

I had a couple questions on modules:

1. what is the biggest limitation of a DTG compared to a DSG? What's
the most recommended DTG mod?

2. can the TKB be programmed to mute a step in a sequence? Could one
solution be to use a row and set the pots at full for a "gate" and
all the way down for a "mute", routing the row output to the intended
gate source?

3. are the S/H capabilities of a random source and S/H section of a
SSG equivalent or do they have their own distinct character?

I'm sure more questions will follow.

Thanks,

Jeff

Re: module questions

2002-04-19 by Vsyevolod

Okay, I've had a chance to check out an old catalog on the DTG
and the DSG. The three things that are present on the DSG that are
not on the DTG are:
A 3-way switch to allow the incoming CV to affect a) the rise
only, b) both the rise and fall, or c) the fall only.
A 1v/oct input, nice if you want to send a CV to several sources
and have it affect them all to the same degree.
A trigger input, which allows the generation of subharmonics.
This was one of my favorite functions on the older Positive Slew
module. Input an oscillator audio range or sub-audio, and this input
will divide it in half or in thirds or fourths or fifths, etc. If
you choose a high frequency, you will then get an octave below, then
a twelfth, then two octaves, then two octaves and a major third...
just like the harmonic series except in reverse.

If memory serves me correctly, the same PC board was used for
both modules, thus if you wanted to clutter up your panel, you could
drill some new holes and add these three items.

The most common mod that I recall for either module, was to
install a switch allowing the unit to oscillate. Similar to patching
the output back into the input for use as an oscillator.

SVG

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> I had a couple questions on modules:
>
> 1. what is the biggest limitation of a DTG compared to a DSG?

What's

> the most recommended DTG mod?

Re: module questions

2002-04-19 by John Papiewski

Well bucko, the trigger input *is* available on the new DTG's. Meaning
either you misread the catalog or DTG's going back many years have had this
feature.

Some of the popular DTG mod's include the bat switch connecting trigger and
gate so you could set up an oscillator or clock without a patchcord. Also
the Signal In jack, which is the most versatile mod, and the Bipolar Out mod.

IMO the DTG is a great module: extremely wide range, versatile, and easy on
panel space.

The SSG and the Random Source out are equivalent if you're feeding the
Stepped input with a random signal. There are differences between the
modules: that the S/H output of Random Source is a dedicated sample-and-hold,
you can't feed some other sample signal into it, and the SSG samples whatever
you send into the input, random or periodic. Also the Stepped Rate knob
affects the SSG stepped output... it sets the magnitude of the differences
between steps... so low rate setting means small restricted steps and a high
rate means large differences between steps.

John P.

Vsyevolod wrote:

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> Okay, I've had a chance to check out an old catalog on the DTG
> and the DSG. The three things that are present on the DSG that are
> not on the DTG are:
> A 3-way switch to allow the incoming CV to affect a) the rise
> only, b) both the rise and fall, or c) the fall only.
> A 1v/oct input, nice if you want to send a CV to several sources
> and have it affect them all to the same degree.
> A trigger input, which allows the generation of subharmonics.
> This was one of my favorite functions on the older Positive Slew
> module. Input an oscillator audio range or sub-audio, and this input
> will divide it in half or in thirds or fourths or fifths, etc. If
> you choose a high frequency, you will then get an octave below, then
> a twelfth, then two octaves, then two octaves and a major third...
> just like the harmonic series except in reverse.
>
> If memory serves me correctly, the same PC board was used for
> both modules, thus if you wanted to clutter up your panel, you could
> drill some new holes and add these three items.
>
> The most common mod that I recall for either module, was to
> install a switch allowing the unit to oscillate. Similar to patching
> the output back into the input for use as an oscillator.
>
> SVG
>
> > I had a couple questions on modules:
> >
> > 1. what is the biggest limitation of a DTG compared to a DSG?
> What's
> > the most recommended DTG mod?
>
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