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OT: Windows Midi Timing

2006-04-18 by Stoffel

Hi Folks,

a bit off topic, but maybe you can help.

I had the idea of arranging some of my tracks that I did with the P3
in my sequencer Cubas SX. So i recorded the midi out of the P3 into my
computer, quantized everything, and was really shocked when i played
back the track from Cubase. It "felt" completely different. Well you
couldn't really hear timing problems, but it wasn't by far as tight as
when I play it with the P3. So i started to measure. First I played
the song with the P3, all 8 Tracks running, but i recorded only one
track with a clap on every Quarter Note. Then I compared Bar 1 to Bar
2 in this way: in CoolEdit I arranged the two bars on two tracks, and
made sure, that the first Clap of Bar1 and the first Clap of Bar2
where exact on each other with no offset. Then I measured the
deviation of the other three Claps, and they had a maximum offset of
0,5 ms between each other.   
 
Then I did the same with the song played back by Cubase SX. And I
measured offsets between 1,5 ms and up to 4 ms. 

You might say, that this is beyond a noticeable difference, but when
you have a lot of drum stuff going on, you really can feel the
difference when you compare it to the output of the P3. (Or at least I
believe that i can feel it, although i did no blind test)

Now this really drives me cracy. 

Mybe I'm not using the right environment? I'm using Windows 2000 (SP4)
with directx 9.0c and Cubase SX. I read somewhere that WindowsXP and
Cubase SX3 should be ways better. Anyone with experience about that?

Or another solution might be the Midex8 with that strange LTB Method.
But they doesn't seem to sell it anymore? Why? Are all Midi Timing
Problems solved with WinXP, or is it just because noone cares anymore?

At the moment I really think about just rehearsing more with the P3
and just using the Laptop as a 8-Track recorder, and forget about
arranging with the Computer. If only I had more then two hands, so
that I could do more than tweak two knobs of my Nord Modular.

If anyone knows a solution to this Windows Timing stuff, please let me
know.

Best wishes and once again: thanx Colin for this wonderful P3.
Stoffel

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