Analogue-sequencer

I would say that the Octopus and Schrittmacher are much
more "sophisticated" then the MAQ...   of course the price
reflects that just like in the P3...  

Just in the last year, a list member had troubles selling their home 
built P3 for
$750 on ebay, so it's a matter of looking and waiting with your money. 

Now for me, I price my P3 at well above the current going Ebay price, 
because I can't
replace it.... so it's value to me is equal to or more then an Octopus. 
So I don't think
that's artificial. It's reality.  If my P3 wasn't there, THAT would be 
very real to me.

And remember, every wish that Colin adds on, is a raise in the price (if 
it's hardware related)....  
so if Price is your concern, then you will want Less features for the 
P4.   I really doubt the P4 will cost the
same or less then the Cyclus3 or Revolution or even a MAQ...  now of 
course Colin can prove us all
wrong, but I really doubt the P4 will be costing $750 or less like the 
Sequencers you listed...


Cheers,
Dave

hysham2000 wrote:

> Thank you very much guyz (and of course to the P3 father, Collin) for
> your feedbacks. So the P4 would arrive "soon" depending many factors.
>
> Maybe a P4 wish list might be needed if not done already to collect
> all users comments (the only comment I can give as a non user
> is "keep it simple" and user friendly).
>
> On my side I will go for the cyclus 3 or the monophonique future
> retro revolution r2 (which has also a mono synth that might be a good
> addition comparing the price difference...) and the doepfer which is
> certainly the most sophisticated (expect the P3 of course).
> I think the P3 second hand price is not fair (even I'm sure it's a
> great sequencer)and it's like the stock market completely artificial
> due to his rareness...
>
> hope the P4 rumor will break this as well....
> thanks !
>
> --- In analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com 
> <mailto:analogue-sequencer%40yahoogroups.com>, "Richard Scott"
> <richard_scott@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Colin
> >
> > so the intention is that P4 will have a physical interface that
> normal humans can understand, including a bigger display, and I can
> sequence modules, midi controlled fx, a drum synth, a modular and my
> moogermooger pedals all from the same box... (16 or 32 tracks?) I
> imagine recording all this output as midi and audio to my MPC4000 or
> Ableton Live and then constructing the actual songs there. And I
> guess, plus something like usb or a SD card to back everything up,
> wow...
> >
> > assuming a better display, it would be nice to be able to label
> individual tracks so we know what is going where. and if this were
> possible I would love it if the a usb port could also recognise a
> QWERTY keyboard, this is a heck of a lot nicer than scrolling around
> the alphabet to keep everything labelled up... I wish EVERY synth and
> module had this
> >
> > ....but please make sure you miss something important that is on
> the P3 so that my P3 will keep its currently grossly exaggerated
> value... :)
> >
> > oh wait, but then I wouldn't want to want to sell it,
> >
> > must drink at least 3 cups of tea before posting
> >
> > Richard
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Colin Fraser
> > To: analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com 
> <mailto:analogue-sequencer%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 10:26 AM
> > Subject: RE: [analogue-sequencer] Re: P4 ? if yes for when ?
> >
> >
> >
> > > --- In analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com 
> <mailto:analogue-sequencer%40yahoogroups.com>, "Colin Fraser"
> <colin@>
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > > I also want dedicated percussion programming, but that may not
> > > appear at the
> >
> > > Check out... the drum sequencer based on the Roland 808
> schems...
> > > http://www.eight-oh-eight.org/phpbb2/ 
> <http://www.eight-oh-eight.org/phpbb2/>
> > >
> > > Specifically... Future Development of MB808 Firmware
> > > http://eight-oh-eight.org/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=169 
> <http://eight-oh-eight.org/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=169>
> >
> > I mean to include percussion programming in P4, so that
> percussion patterns
> > are integrated into the same parts as note patterns, or at least
> changes in
> > percussion patterns can be tightly sychronised with changes in
> the note
> > tracks.
> > I've been finding it increasingly annoying to maintain the drum
> parts for
> > tracks separately from the synth parts.
> >
> > > I'll keep my fingers crossed for C/V :O)
> >
> > I did some research a while back into the audibility of MIDI
> delays, and
> > found the minimum times that can actually be perceived to be less
> than I
> > thought.
> > Very short delays that can't be heard in isolation as rhythmic
> changes can
> > be heard as timbral changes where sounds are layered - most
> notably with
> > percussion sounds.
> > So the plan is for P4 to include native CV outputs.
> > In order to make it as flexible as possible, this will likely be
> on a
> > daughter-board connected to the main CPU by a very high-speed
> synchronous
> > connection.
> > That way there would be the option to have multiple
> note/velocity/aux/gate
> > CV outs for synths, or multiple accent/trig outputs to drive drum
> sounds.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Colin Fraser
> > Sequentix Music Systems Ltd
> > http://www.sequentix.com <http://www.sequentix.com>
> >
> >
> >
> >
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