Analogue-sequencer

Thanks for your comments Dave, I agree with you regarding the 
comparison with the sequencer I mentioned, they are not in the same 
league (the idea is to wait with one of this one till the P4 pop up). 

I would expand my price limit accordingly for something really good 
in the future (of course according to my needs as well).

The price craziness I was referring to was about more than 2 k $ for 
a P3 which I find too much ( I read they went even above this...). So 
if someone has a P3 in good condition for 750 $ I would buy it 
straight away ;-)

All the best,

--- In analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com, DB <dave@...> wrote:
>
> 
> I would say that the Octopus and Schrittmacher are much
> more "sophisticated" then the MAQ...   of course the price
> reflects that just like in the P3...  
> 
> Just in the last year, a list member had troubles selling their 
home 
> built P3 for
> $750 on ebay, so it's a matter of looking and waiting with your 
money. 
> 
> Now for me, I price my P3 at well above the current going Ebay 
price, 
> because I can't
> replace it.... so it's value to me is equal to or more then an 
Octopus. 
> So I don't think
> that's artificial. It's reality.  If my P3 wasn't there, THAT would 
be 
> very real to me.
> 
> And remember, every wish that Colin adds on, is a raise in the 
price (if 
> it's hardware related)....  
> so if Price is your concern, then you will want Less features for 
the 
> P4.   I really doubt the P4 will cost the
> same or less then the Cyclus3 or Revolution or even a MAQ...  now 
of 
> course Colin can prove us all
> wrong, but I really doubt the P4 will be costing $750 or less like 
the 
> Sequencers you listed...
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Dave
> 
> hysham2000 wrote:
> 
> > Thank you very much guyz (and of course to the P3 father, Collin) 
for
> > your feedbacks. So the P4 would arrive "soon" depending many 
factors.
> >
> > Maybe a P4 wish list might be needed if not done already to 
collect
> > all users comments (the only comment I can give as a non user
> > is "keep it simple" and user friendly).
> >
> > On my side I will go for the cyclus 3 or the monophonique future
> > retro revolution r2 (which has also a mono synth that might be a 
good
> > addition comparing the price difference...) and the doepfer which 
is
> > certainly the most sophisticated (expect the P3 of course).
> > I think the P3 second hand price is not fair (even I'm sure it's a
> > great sequencer)and it's like the stock market completely 
artificial
> > due to his rareness...
> >
> > hope the P4 rumor will break this as well....
> > thanks !
> >
> > --- In analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com 
> > <mailto:analogue-sequencer%40yahoogroups.com>, "Richard Scott"
> > <richard_scott@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Colin
> > >
> > > so the intention is that P4 will have a physical interface that
> > normal humans can understand, including a bigger display, and I 
can
> > sequence modules, midi controlled fx, a drum synth, a modular and 
my
> > moogermooger pedals all from the same box... (16 or 32 tracks?) I
> > imagine recording all this output as midi and audio to my MPC4000 
or
> > Ableton Live and then constructing the actual songs there. And I
> > guess, plus something like usb or a SD card to back everything up,
> > wow...
> > >
> > > assuming a better display, it would be nice to be able to label
> > individual tracks so we know what is going where. and if this were
> > possible I would love it if the a usb port could also recognise a
> > QWERTY keyboard, this is a heck of a lot nicer than scrolling 
around
> > the alphabet to keep everything labelled up... I wish EVERY synth 
and
> > module had this
> > >
> > > ....but please make sure you miss something important that is on
> > the P3 so that my P3 will keep its currently grossly exaggerated
> > value... :)
> > >
> > > oh wait, but then I wouldn't want to want to sell it,
> > >
> > > must drink at least 3 cups of tea before posting
> > >
> > > Richard
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Colin Fraser
> > > To: analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com 
> > <mailto:analogue-sequencer%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 10:26 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [analogue-sequencer] Re: P4 ? if yes for when ?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > --- In analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com 
> > <mailto:analogue-sequencer%40yahoogroups.com>, "Colin Fraser"
> > <colin@>
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > > I also want dedicated percussion programming, but that may 
not
> > > > appear at the
> > >
> > > > Check out... the drum sequencer based on the Roland 808
> > schems...
> > > > http://www.eight-oh-eight.org/phpbb2/ 
> > <http://www.eight-oh-eight.org/phpbb2/>
> > > >
> > > > Specifically... Future Development of MB808 Firmware
> > > > http://eight-oh-eight.org/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=169 
> > <http://eight-oh-eight.org/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=169>
> > >
> > > I mean to include percussion programming in P4, so that
> > percussion patterns
> > > are integrated into the same parts as note patterns, or at least
> > changes in
> > > percussion patterns can be tightly sychronised with changes in
> > the note
> > > tracks.
> > > I've been finding it increasingly annoying to maintain the drum
> > parts for
> > > tracks separately from the synth parts.
> > >
> > > > I'll keep my fingers crossed for C/V :O)
> > >
> > > I did some research a while back into the audibility of MIDI
> > delays, and
> > > found the minimum times that can actually be perceived to be 
less
> > than I
> > > thought.
> > > Very short delays that can't be heard in isolation as rhythmic
> > changes can
> > > be heard as timbral changes where sounds are layered - most
> > notably with
> > > percussion sounds.
> > > So the plan is for P4 to include native CV outputs.
> > > In order to make it as flexible as possible, this will likely be
> > on a
> > > daughter-board connected to the main CPU by a very high-speed
> > synchronous
> > > connection.
> > > That way there would be the option to have multiple
> > note/velocity/aux/gate
> > > CV outs for synths, or multiple accent/trig outputs to drive 
drum
> > sounds.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Colin Fraser
> > > Sequentix Music Systems Ltd
> > > http://www.sequentix.com <http://www.sequentix.com>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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