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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Re: PLED displays

Re: [analogue-sequencer] Re: PLED displays

2004-03-04 by Colin f

> i contacted their sales dept. via email yesterday asking about a single
> display, but haven't heard back.

If you haven't already given the game away, you might get a couple of
'samples' out of them if you can convince them you're in the market for
several thousand ;-)

Colin f



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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Re: PLED displays: NEW SOURCE!

2004-03-04 by blip

On Thu, 4 Mar 2004, Colin f wrote:

> If you haven't already given the game away, you might get a couple of
> 'samples' out of them if you can convince them you're in the market for
> several thousand ;-)

heh heh... i made the unfortunate mistake of being honest. :)

anyway....

i found a source for the actual delta opto part that you use... notice
that the model number printed on the PCB is the same as in the BOM, though
the device seems to have been re-branded...

http://www.crystalfontz.com/products/CFAP1602M/index.html

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0.6W resistors???

2004-03-04 by blip

colin,

the BOM states that all resistors should be 0.6W, but those seem to be
impossible to find over here. is that a typo? should it be .5? i've even
searched for "2/3 resistor" and have found nothing helpful...

thanks,
fred.

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RE: [analogue-sequencer] 0.6W resistors???

2004-03-04 by Colin f

> the BOM states that all resistors should be 0.6W, but those seem to be
> impossible to find over here. is that a typo? should it be 
> .5? i've even
> searched for "2/3 resistor" and have found nothing helpful...

It's not critical - even 0.25w should be fine. The important thing is to
get them to fit 0.3" hole spacing.

> in the instructions on the webpage, it seems that you have the two pot
> boards and the led and switch boards going into the same 
> IDC16 header on
> the main board... the secret being a connector in the middle 
> of the cable.
> could you give us the details of this connector and how to hook it up?

Eh, no - the two pot boards connect to the POTS connector on the main
board, and the three LED & switch boards connect to the LED/SW connector
on the main board.
The Pot bus cable is shown here:
http://www.colinfraser.com/p3/images/pot-board-wiring.jpg

And LED/Switch bus shown here:
http://www.colinfraser.com/p3/images/sw-LCD-wiring.jpg

Both shown on this page:
http://www.colinfraser.com/p3/p3-build-final.htm

There are other photos where the routing of the cables is less obvious.
I'll need to write some instructions for assembling the cables - I have
to measure the spacing of the connectors up each time I put a set
together myself, so it would make sense to write them down.

Cheers,
Colin f

RE: [analogue-sequencer] 0.6W resistors???

2004-03-04 by Colin f

> i said that wrong... the two pot boards get connected to the 
> same cable
> which goes into the POTS header on the main board... there's 
> a mysterious
> connector that seems to make this possible. it's the same 
> situation with
> the switch and led boards... i think i see something like this in the
> mouser catalog, but i've no idea how to wire it up.

Ah, I get you.
The mysterious connector is justthe same 16 pin IDC connector as used at
either end of the cable.
The ribbon passes straight through them, so they can be squished on
anywhere along the cable.
Same as the two hard drive connectors on a normal IDE cable.

> i can't find the exact heatsink that you specify in the BOM... can you
> give us a little more information about it so us colonists can find a
> decent substitute?

There's a question ;-)
The heatsink used will need to dissipate enough heat to stop it
over-heating.
How much heat is produced by the regulator will depend on the power
supply voltage.
The part I use has a rating of 20 degrees C per watt.
Probably any clip on TO220 heat sink will do as well, if it has similar
dimensions.

> (US BOM 90% done!!!)

Cool.

Cheers,
Colin f

RE: [analogue-sequencer] 0.6W resistors???

2004-03-04 by blip

On Thu, 4 Mar 2004, Colin f wrote:

> Eh, no - the two pot boards connect to the POTS connector on the main
> board, and the three LED & switch boards connect to the LED/SW connector
> on the main board.

i said that wrong... the two pot boards get connected to the same cable
which goes into the POTS header on the main board... there's a mysterious
connector that seems to make this possible. it's the same situation with
the switch and led boards... i think i see something like this in the
mouser catalog, but i've no idea how to wire it up.

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one more question (TO-220 heatsink)

2004-03-04 by blip

hi colin...

i can't find the exact heatsink that you specify in the BOM... can you
give us a little more information about it so us colonists can find a
decent substitute?

thanks!

(US BOM 90% done!!!)

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RE: [analogue-sequencer] one more question (US B.O.M.)

2004-03-05 by Frank Vanaman

Hello--

>(US BOM 90% done!!!)

Oh wow! The embarrassing news from me is that I've got this big pile of P3
circuit boards and haven't gotten around to picking up anything for them
yet. :-( Er, so can I humbly ask if you'll let us other, slower, US builders
in on the US BOM at some point? Please?  :-)

Frank

US BOM

2004-03-05 by blip

On Thu, 4 Mar 2004, Frank Vanaman wrote:

> Oh wow! The embarrassing news from me is that I've got this big pile of P3
> circuit boards and haven't gotten around to picking up anything for them
> yet. :-( Er, so can I humbly ask if you'll let us other, slower, US builders
> in on the US BOM at some point? Please?  :-)

i'll post it to the yahoo files section when it's done. currently, i'm all
done except for the resistors. there are two caveats, however... i'm not
sure the knobs i selected will work with the pots (they're not exactly the
same as colin uses, but electrically they're the same), and also there is
currently nowhere in the US that stocks 18MHz crystals... maybe we'll have
to bug colin about those... :) or maybe i could order a bunch from the UK
and ship them to all of you. probably cheaper that way.

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] US BOM

2004-03-05 by blip

On Thu, 4 Mar 2004, blip wrote:

> same as colin uses, but electrically they're the same), and also there is
> currently nowhere in the US that stocks 18MHz crystals... maybe we'll have
> to bug colin about those... :) or maybe i could order a bunch from the UK
> and ship them to all of you. probably cheaper that way.

well, i tried... farnell cannot export to me. so colin... pretty please
can you buy a bunch of crystals and send them to us US folks?

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RE: [analogue-sequencer] one more question (US B.O.M.)

2004-03-05 by Dave Magnuson

At 07:29 PM 3/4/04 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Hello--
>
>>(US BOM 90% done!!!)
>
>Oh wow! The embarrassing news from me is that I've got this big pile of P3
>circuit boards and haven't gotten around to picking up anything for them
>yet. :-( Er, so can I humbly ask if you'll let us other, slower, US builders
>in on the US BOM at some point? Please?  :-)


I'm actually in the same boat myself.  I always buy PCBs when I see them
because they're typically a only made for a short run, then they're
unavailable.... so I have this nice box full of PCBs that I slowly work at
when I have the time.

But I'm very interested in seeing the US version of the BOM!!!  Might kick
me into action a little earlier :)

Dave

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resfreq@hoohahrecords.com
http://www.hoohahrecords.com/resfreq/index.html

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