Analogue-sequencer

Folks,

At present, if you copy and paste some notes from one pattern to 
another, the auxes are included in the paste, but the aux config on 
the destination pattern may be different. This can cause rather 
strange effects unless you remember to turn off the auxes on the 
pasted steps.
Would it make more sense for the aux config to be pasted too ?
Or, should copy/paste only copy the notes, velocity, length, delay, 
gate, tie and skip ?

Cheers,
Colin f

> > Or, should copy/paste only copy the notes, velocity, length, 
delay,
> > gate, tie and skip ?
> 
> yep,
> 
> Its more fun, setting up the Aux things doesn't take long, and 
sometimes
> all you want is the note data.

So, if I were to make 'paste' only paste note, velo etc., and 
FUNC+'paste' paste in the auxes too - would that keep everyone 
happy ?

Along similar lines, I've just added a FUNC+'[confirm]' option 
to 'clr' that leaves the notes as they are and just turns off all 
auxes. Expect to see that in the next release.

Another feature we could probably do with will be the ability 
to 'save to:' to a different track...

Cheers,
Colin f

Colin,

> Would it make more sense for the aux config to be pasted too ?

nope...

> Or, should copy/paste only copy the notes, velocity, length, delay,
> gate, tie and skip ?

yep,

Its more fun, setting up the Aux things doesn't take long, and sometimes
all you want is the note data.

Paul

> At present, if you copy and paste some notes from one pattern to 
> another, the auxes are included in the paste, but the aux config on 
> the destination pattern may be different. This can cause rather 
> strange effects unless you remember to turn off the auxes on the 
> pasted steps.
> Would it make more sense for the aux config to be pasted too ?
> Or, should copy/paste only copy the notes, velocity, length, delay, 
> gate, tie and skip ?

hm...well my first impulse would be to go for a combined paste of 
everything, including auxes etc., but after reading some other 
responses to the question the thing with the FUNC+paste to paste 
everything sounds pretty cool. and useful, as someone else mentioned.

grtz Chiel

Paul.Maddox.Mail-list@Synth.net wrote:
> Colin,
> 
>> Would it make more sense for the aux config to be pasted too ?
> 
> nope...
> 
>> Or, should copy/paste only copy the notes, velocity, length, delay,
>> gate, tie and skip ?
> 
> yep,
> 
> Its more fun, setting up the Aux things doesn't take long, and
> sometimes all you want is the note data.
> 

Agreed.

Gert
www.waveworld.tv

colinfraser_com wrote:
>>> Or, should copy/paste only copy the notes, velocity, length, delay,
>>> gate, tie and skip ?
>> 
>> yep,
>> 
>> Its more fun, setting up the Aux things doesn't take long, and
>> sometimes all you want is the note data.
> 
> So, if I were to make 'paste' only paste note, velo etc., and
> FUNC+'paste' paste in the auxes too - would that keep everyone
> happy ?

Sounds like a very good idea.

Gert
www.waveworld.tv

On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 15:22:40 -0000, "colinfraser_com"
<colin@colinfraser.com> wrote:

>So, if I were to make 'paste' only paste note, velo etc., and 
>FUNC+'paste' paste in the auxes too - would that keep everyone 
>happy ?

Yeah, I do often create a full 16 steps of cool auxes only to realise
I need to shift them down one in order to randomly mask them, or
whatever. Would this paste in the aux definitions?

>Along similar lines, I've just added a FUNC+'[confirm]' option 
>to 'clr' that leaves the notes as they are and just turns off all 
>auxes. Expect to see that in the next release.

Sweet

>Another feature we could probably do with will be the ability 
>to 'save to:' to a different track...

Very much yeah. Those auxes could then migrate all over the P3 like a
Virus.... 8)

Paul

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On Tue, 24 Aug 2004, colinfraser_com wrote:

> So, if I were to make 'paste' only paste note, velo etc., and
> FUNC+'paste' paste in the auxes too - would that keep everyone
> happy ?

well, i haven't played with auxes beyond midi CCs yet, but it doesn't seem
like a big deal.

> Another feature we could probably do with will be the ability
> to 'save to:' to a different track...

*very* useful...

bleep.
out.

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Colin,

> So, if I were to make 'paste' only paste note, velo etc., and
> FUNC+'paste' paste in the auxes too - would that keep everyone
> happy ?

Yep, that makes more sense.
 
> Along similar lines, I've just added a FUNC+'[confirm]' option
> to 'clr' that leaves the notes as they are and just turns off all
> auxes. Expect to see that in the next release.

Hmmm, can I ask a favour?
With all these new things and button combinations, can we have a 'crib'
sheet?
Something that shows you how to quickly get to certain features?
Just one or two pages, nothing more.
I'm totally confused by it all now, if you want my tuppence worth, the P3
has enough features, now's the time to stop.

Paul

On Tue, 24 Aug 2004, Paul Maddox (Mail LIsts) wrote:

> With all these new things and button combinations, can we have a 'crib'
> sheet?
> Something that shows you how to quickly get to certain features?
> Just one or two pages, nothing more.
> I'm totally confused by it all now, if you want my tuppence worth, the P3
> has enough features, now's the time to stop.

funny you should ask... i plan to work on one come september... the goal
is to size it such that it fits on the flat top of one of those slanted
hammond cases... alesis MMT-8 anyone? :)

bleep.
out.

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On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 20:41:20 +0100, "Paul Maddox (Mail LIsts)"
<Paul.Maddox.Mail-list@Synth.net> wrote:

>I'm totally confused by it all now, if you want my tuppence worth, the P3
>has enough features, now's the time to stop.

To finish your sentence in a new way, you might say: "now's the time
for me to stop updating my OS cos I've got enough to play with. You
guys enjoy whatever comes afterwards though."

8)

It's an option.

Paul (who pretends he can stop but, really, he can't).
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Paul Nagle wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 20:41:20 +0100, "Paul Maddox (Mail LIsts)"
> <Paul.Maddox.Mail-list@Synth.net> wrote:
>
>> I'm totally confused by it all now, if you want my tuppence worth,
>> the P3 has enough features, now's the time to stop.
>
> To finish your sentence in a new way, you might say: "now's the time
> for me to stop updating my OS cos I've got enough to play with. You
> guys enjoy whatever comes afterwards though."
>
> 8)
>
> It's an option.
>
> Paul (who pretends he can stop but, really, he can't).

Updating software is an addiction. If you can't control it, you might end in
the gutter...

;-)

Gert
www.waveworld.tv

> Yeah, I do often create a full 16 steps of cool auxes only to realise
> I need to shift them down one in order to randomly mask them, or
> whatever. Would this paste in the aux definitions?

You're asking for something different here, aint ya ?
You want some sort of 'rotate auxes' option to move aux A round when you
realise you need aux A to mangle whatever it was you started with.
It might be easier if you just remember to start with aux C or D ;-)

Cheers,
Colin f

On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 21:45:30 +0100, "Colin f" <colin@colinfraser.com>
wrote:

>You're asking for something different here, aint ya ?

Nah, not me squire. 
Um
Well
OK, I might have been asking a little...  but it wouldn't be top of my
wants list*

>You want some sort of 'rotate auxes' option to move aux A round when you
>realise you need aux A to mangle whatever it was you started with.
>It might be easier if you just remember to start with aux C or D ;-)

I so often do. And of an entirely different track to the one I intend
to mess with. Just in case I want to do something truly outlandish.
And because I can, I do.

Anyway, joking aside, we've eliminated the (achievable) bulk of what I
ever wanted from a sequencer a long time ago. And when I say we, I
mean you, of course. The P3 has grown into, for me, a monster live
improvisational tool. And it's the most inspirational creator of
complex sequences I ever used in the studio. I've played and loved the
Notron but the P3 is way, way further out there in terms of what it
can do. I would happily take it onstage totally empty and be confident
of creating several hours worth of cool loops. I can't think of any
other piece of gear that could do the same. In fact it's changed my
way of working irrevocably - the computer remains turned off except
when mastering CDs. Cubase is dormant now. Everything I do is
sequenced on the P3 and played manually in a single performance. Like
the old days. And I'm more productive than ever - especially with a
bunch of other musos in the studio ready to jam. Sigh...

I guess this is my clumsy way of saying, publicly, "thanks" for
putting up with all my wild and wacko requests. And implementing them
so fast, accurately and better than I imagined. The end result is
awesome and if there's anything I can do to further the cause, I will.

Paul

* A list which involves Halle Berry, amongst others, and a lot of baby
oil.   
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Email: paul@softroom.co.uk www.softroom.co.uk
                           www.BogusFocus.com

> I guess this is my clumsy way of saying, publicly, "thanks" for
> putting up with all my wild and wacko requests.
> And implementing them
> so fast, accurately and better than I imagined.

AMEN!

> The end result is
> awesome and if there's anything I can do to further the cause, I will.

Make more audio/video tutorials. Since you are *so* into the P3, YOU 
are the one that *could* enlighten us on the deeper maths of this beast 
:-))

Boele

Boele Gerkes wrote:
>> I guess this is my clumsy way of saying, publicly, "thanks" for
>> putting up with all my wild and wacko requests.
>> And implementing them
>> so fast, accurately and better than I imagined.
> 
> AMEN!
> 
>> The end result is
>> awesome and if there's anything I can do to further the cause, I
>> will. 
> 
> Make more audio/video tutorials. Since you are *so* into the P3, YOU
> are the one that *could* enlighten us on the deeper maths of this
> beast :-))

When you say. 'more', that must mean there are already some... But where?

Gert
www.waveworld.tv

On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 23:08:43 +0200, Boele Gerkes <scd@synthmusic.info>
wrote:

>Make more audio/video tutorials. Since you are *so* into the P3, YOU 
>are the one that *could* enlighten us on the deeper maths of this beast 
>:-))

Maths? Erm... I failed my Maths A level. 

I like the P3 cos I can use it when utterly off my face. I'm not sure
that translates to a great educational experience when I try to
explain it though... 8)

Paul
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On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 23:09:52 +0200, "Gert van Santen"
<g.vansanten@chello.nl> wrote:

>When you say. 'more', that must mean there are already some... But where?

Good question. I seem to recall an MP3 audio tutorial that I knocked
up once. It was far from complete but a starter kinda thing. 

No idea where it went though... sorry.... 

Discipline. That's what I need. Fortunately, it's on 'the list'...I'll
get some soon. Assuming Halle brings her black leather gear and the
whip.

Paul

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                           www.BogusFocus.com

Aha, now I remember. The tutorial things are in the Files section of
the Yahoo group...

I think I called them something stupid like "Test1" and "Test2". I
should do more. And better.

Shutting up now

Paul
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Email: paul@softroom.co.uk www.softroom.co.uk
                           www.BogusFocus.com

> >When you say. 'more', that must mean there are already 
> some... But where?
> 
> Good question. I seem to recall an MP3 audio tutorial that I knocked
> up once. It was far from complete but a starter kinda thing. 

There are two in the files section at Yahoo.
And thanks for the kind words, Paul (despite inadvertently convincing
everyone you need to take drugs to use P3).

Cheers,
Colin f

Colin f wrote:
>>> When you say. 'more', that must mean there are already
>> some... But where?
>> 
>> Good question. I seem to recall an MP3 audio tutorial that I knocked
>> up once. It was far from complete but a starter kinda thing.
> 
> There are two in the files section at Yahoo.
> And thanks for the kind words, Paul (despite inadvertently convincing
> everyone you need to take drugs to use P3).
> 

Thanks Paul, Colin.

:-)

Gert
www.waveworld.tv

Bleep,

> funny you should ask... i plan to work on one come september... the goal
> is to size it such that it fits on the flat top of one of those slanted
> hammond cases... alesis MMT-8 anyone? :)

Ermm, I did my P3 in one of those and one for amanda
(http://www.modulus.synth.net/pics/p3.gif)
:-)

Paul

On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 22:28:44 +0100, "Colin f" <colin@colinfraser.com>
wrote:

>And thanks for the kind words, Paul (despite inadvertently convincing
>everyone you need to take drugs to use P3).

Not to use.

But to groove with in a deeply spiritual symbiotic relationship, yeah
baby!

Paul

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On Tue, 24 Aug 2004, Paul Maddox (Mail LIsts) wrote:

> Ermm, I did my P3 in one of those and one for amanda
> (http://www.modulus.synth.net/pics/p3.gif)
> :-)

hmmm... well, you could probably somehow attach it to the edge of the case
if you get it hard laminated (like ID cards).

bleep.
out.

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