Analogue-sequencer

Hi Colin,


For now I use the play-edit/record feature

<PLAY/EDIT> + Track/Pattern number, then HIT <REC>
with the P3 in RUN mode (Real-time recording)

Could it be possible to implement step-time into the P3
as another way of inputting notes via midi keyboard without
the P3 running.  Sorry, I'm used to using step-time recording
with my other sequencers, It would be nice to see a feature like
this on the P3, making it a little bit easier to record sequences,
then edit or change them on the fly.

Any chance of this being a feature in the future ?

Cheers.

> Could it be possible to implement step-time into the P3
> as another way of inputting notes via midi keyboard without
> the P3 running.  Sorry, I'm used to using step-time recording
> with my other sequencers, It would be nice to see a feature like
> this on the P3, making it a little bit easier to record sequences,
> then edit or change them on the fly.
> 
> Any chance of this being a feature in the future ?

Arpeggio capture does this.
You must be in pattern edit mode to use it.
Hold FUNC and press REC - you should see <<ARP>> in the top right of the
display.
Make sure the 'rong' option is 'off'. Press the 'clr' softkey to reset to
step 1.
Then just enter notes you want from a midi keyboard.
Each note and velocity will write into a step, and it'll move onto the next
one.
Last step is increased automatically to the length of the pattern you enter.
The P:n indicator shows you which will be the next step to be written.
You can do this with the sequencer running or stopped.

Cheers,
Colin f

--- In analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com, "Colin f" <colin@c...> 
wrote:
>  
> > Could it be possible to implement step-time into the P3
> > as another way of inputting notes via midi keyboard without
> > the P3 running.  Sorry, I'm used to using step-time recording
> > with my other sequencers, It would be nice to see a feature like
> > this on the P3, making it a little bit easier to record sequences,
> > then edit or change them on the fly.
> > 
> > Any chance of this being a feature in the future ?
> 
> Arpeggio capture does this.
> You must be in pattern edit mode to use it.
> Hold FUNC and press REC - you should see <<ARP>> in the top right 
of the
> display.
> Make sure the 'rong' option is 'off'. Press the 'clr' softkey to 
reset to
> step 1.
> Then just enter notes you want from a midi keyboard.
> Each note and velocity will write into a step, and it'll move onto 
the next
> one.
> Last step is increased automatically to the length of the pattern 
you enter.
> The P:n indicator shows you which will be the next step to be 
written.
> You can do this with the sequencer running or stopped.
> 
> Cheers,
> Colin f


Thx Colin,

How did I miss that one ?   I'll never know.
Must read the manual a bit more carefully this time.

On Mon, 09 May 2005 14:00:46 -0000, "analog1k" <analog1k@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:

>How did I miss that one ?   I'll never know.
>Must read the manual a bit more carefully this time.

It's a tip in the user guide somewhere too. Probably buried under an
entry like "ferrets and how to juggle them", knowing me.

Paul

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          Bogus Focus Records - www.BogusFocus.com

Here's one you might like: 

Create two patterns - one of them a simple 4-step sequence playing any
4 notes you like. For the second pattern, don't enter any notes;
instead set two auxilliaries as follows:

Row A "offset Aux D rel" and enable the first step with any value you
like. 
Row D "set lstep abs" - enable step 1, with a value of 1; this will
set the last step of the pattern - and thus control its length. Ensure
the pattern has no active gate events.

Now make sure that RoPS is set to OFF for both of these patterns (it's
after the Accumulator Config in the same menu). Create a two-step
playlist to play them and sync to "Pattern" rather than the Global
Bar. Now play. 

The result is a 4-step pattern followed initially by a space. The
length of this space depends on the tbase and the Row A offset of your
silent pattern. As it loops round, the space grows according to the
offset criteria (according to any limits you set for Aux D). 

Experiment with different offsets and rules for Aux D limits. You
could set Row A to simply randomise (sorry, 'randomize') the absolute
length but if you do this it can be quite wild. Tame it by setting the
Chg parameter to "B" (sync to the Global Bar).

It's quite fun I think and can be used to add variable spaces to
patterns that don't have notes but, instead, send MIDI controllers,
auxes to other tracks etc. 

I know, it's sunny and I should be outside getting some fresh air.. 8)

Paul
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Paul Nagle - SoftRoom Music - www.softroom.co.uk
          Bogus Focus Records - www.BogusFocus.com

Hi group,

I'm seriously considering building myself a P3. At this point, I'm just trying
to confirm that all the parts are going to be available for a reasonable price
and in a reasonable amount of time.

I've contacted a few electronic parts suppliers near Toronto, Canada, where I
live, and emailed them the BOM for the P3. I've not heard back from any of them.

Does anyone know of any distributors in North America (pref. Canada) that stock
ALL of the parts in the BOM? most parts? 

I've searched throught the archives of this group and had no luck.

Any recommended distributors for the pots and buttons?

Thanks for any help,

Regards,
Paul

On Thu, 12 May 2005, Paul Reinis wrote:

> Does anyone know of any distributors in North America (pref. Canada) that stock
> ALL of the parts in the BOM? most parts?

well, no one stocks *all* of them. you can get most from mouser, though
(www.mouser.com). if you go the PLED route for the screen (which i highly
recommend), you will need to purchase it through crystalfontz
(www.crystalfontz.com). when i built mine, i needed to purchase one of the
ICs (a RAM controller, i think) from digikey (www.digikey.com). the memory
chips that the P3 uses are ancient and very hard to find. i ran across a
stock on ebay that I bought all of. i still have some left and will sell
you the two you need, if you want. it's been awhile, though, so i've
forgotten the price. :)

also, there *was* a US BOM that I had posted awhile ago... it appears to
be gone now, though. I should make another one and upload it. I'm really
short on time for that sort of thing these days tho...

bleep.
out.

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> also, there *was* a US BOM that I had posted awhile ago... it 
> appears to
> be gone now, though. I should make another one and upload it. 
> I'm really
> short on time for that sort of thing these days tho...

The US BoM is in the Archive folder.
It's a little bit out of date for the new revision boards.

Cheers,
Colin f

On Thu, 12 May 2005, Colin f wrote:

> The US BoM is in the Archive folder.
> It's a little bit out of date for the new revision boards.

that is true... colin, could you send me a list of what has changed and
what has been added? that will help me get the updated version up a LOT
faster.

thanks,
fred.

bleep.
out.

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http://thirdwavecollective.com

Hi,

Thanks for a great answer!

So it appears that I shouldn't have too much problem getting everything I need
within north america.

Yes, I would like to buy your memory chips, if you don't need them! (gives me a
chance to return your favour by taking them off your hands and saves me the time
searching!! - if there are any other extra parts I'd need I'd be happy to buy
them too. Is your Yahoo user name op8_shaft? If so, I'll contact you with my
email and other details.)

What keyswitches and knobs did you select? I tried to find a picture of your P3
in the archives, but it doesn't appear to be there.

The US BOM would be very helpful - the reason the companies I contacted haven't
returned my email is probably because I sent them the UK bom.

Colin, would it be possible for you to update that US bom? Or, at least tell us
which parts are out of date and what the new parts are called/numbered?

cheers, and thanks again!

Paul

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On Thu, 12 May 2005, Paul Reinis wrote:

> Does anyone know of any distributors in North America (pref. Canada) that
stock
> ALL of the parts in the BOM? most parts?

well, no one stocks *all* of them. you can get most from mouser, though
(www.mouser.com). if you go the PLED route for the screen (which i highly
recommend), you will need to purchase it through crystalfontz
(www.crystalfontz.com). when i built mine, i needed to purchase one of the
ICs (a RAM controller, i think) from digikey (www.digikey.com). the memory
chips that the P3 uses are ancient and very hard to find. i ran across a
stock on ebay that I bought all of. i still have some left and will sell
you the two you need, if you want. it's been awhile, though, so i've
forgotten the price. :)

also, there *was* a US BOM that I had posted awhile ago... it appears to
be gone now, though. I should make another one and upload it. I'm really
short on time for that sort of thing these days tho...

bleep.
out.

---
http://leichenfeld.iuma.com
http://thirdwavecollective.com



 
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> The US BOM would be very helpful - the reason the companies I 
> contacted haven't
> returned my email is probably because I sent them the UK bom.

More likely because they can't be bothered.
 
> Colin, would it be possible for you to update that US bom? 
> Or, at least tell us
> which parts are out of date and what the new parts are 
> called/numbered?

I didn't put the US BoM together in the first place.
But I'll work out a list of changes so Fred can update his, if he's feeling
generous ;-)

BTW Digikey have the SRAM chips in. Part no. is 428-1080-ND, but buy Fred's
first.

Cheers,
Colin f

> The US BOM would be very helpful - the reason the companies I 
> contacted haven't
> returned my email is probably because I sent them the UK bom.

More likely because they can't be bothered.
 
> Colin, would it be possible for you to update that US bom? 
> Or, at least tell us
> which parts are out of date and what the new parts are 
> called/numbered?

I didn't put the US BoM together in the first place.
But I'll work out a list of changes so Fred can update his, if he's feeling
generous ;-)

BTW Digikey have the SRAM chips in. Part no. is 428-1080-ND, but buy Fred's
first.


Hey Colin,

re: can't be bothered - heh heh, makes sense!

Actually the supplier who's just down the street from my house just got back to
me complaining about how long the bom is, and telling me he's working on it!

Yeah, I've been in touch with Fred already re: ram chips. I'll buy from him. 

re: that list of changes for US bom - that would be great. I'm waiting to
confirm that I can get the parts I need before finally biting the bullet and
buying the pcbs etc.

Cheers,
Paul