Analogue-sequencer

I played a fun little gig over the weekend, a Parents
Coffeehouse/Talent Show for the parents at my daughters school. I
mainly set up my PA and ran sound for about 20 very talented
performers who mostly sang, played various acoustic instruments
(guitars, harmonicas, flutes, tribal drums,  digeradoo, piano). My
musical contribution was to provide ambient drums'n'bass prior to the
show and during the intermission.

I used my P3 with my Nova and ER-1, plus my newly acquired Emu
Morpheus. I initialized a bank and started recording into patterns
(edit-pattern, record) using my ReMOTE25, doing the MIDI looper thang.
Worked great. 

I found myself filling up patterns across all 8 tracks and wanting to
selectively erase an entire pattern/track, in order to either thin
things back out, or take things in a new direction, or just to keep
evolving what I was jamming with. 

Is there an easy way to clear out a pattern/track while the pattern is
running?

-Jim
www.touchxtone.com

> I found myself filling up patterns across all 8 tracks and wanting to
> selectively erase an entire pattern/track, in order to either thin
> things back out, or take things in a new direction, or just to keep
> evolving what I was jamming with. 
> 
> Is there an easy way to clear out a pattern/track while the pattern is
> running?

You can clear a pattern using the clear function, but you have to be in
pattern edit for that.
Once you've cleared one pattern, you could 'save to' it to every other
pattern in the track, but that's a bit long-winded.
There is a modified 'bank init' function accessed by holding FUNC while
confirming bank init, which only clears the patterns on active (un-muted)
tracks. I'm not sure if that would work in the performance situation you
describe.
Anyone else ever wanted to do this ?

Best regards,
Colin Fraser
Sequentix Music Systems Ltd
http://www.sequentix.com

--- In analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com, "Colin f" <colin@c...> wrote:
> You can clear a pattern using the clear function, but you have to be in
> pattern edit for that.
> Once you've cleared one pattern, you could 'save to' it to every other
> pattern in the track, but that's a bit long-winded.

In this instance, I only had one pattern per track and was jumping in
and out of pattern edit to turn REC on and off anyway, so clear would
work fine.

Thanks!

-Jim

> > Is there an easy way to clear out a pattern/track while the
pattern is running?
> You can clear a pattern using the clear function....
> Anyone else ever wanted to do this ?<<

yes. 
in fact, I was just about to chip in with "if you're doing what I do,
which is run a load of patterns one after the other in a playlist &
then drop the thing into record so that you write into each pattern in
turn instead of one at a time, couldn't you just hold down the del
softkey while in record?" but I haven't tried it meself.
or have I?
actually, I think it does work.
anyone near their p3 now?

duncan.

>>It does. I guess someone wanted the convenience of doing it at a
single stroke and erasing all patterns whether they were in a playlist
or not.<<

ah. er.... yeah, that could be useful. bit more drastic though. I tend
to find, with the long multi-pattern sequencing, that I want to keep a
bit of it & punch-in some new notes. this is easier (I recall, now) if
you wait for the bit you like to "go past" then hit the del button for
as long as you dare, in the hope that you don't knock out the notes
you want to keep.
well....
while we're on the subject of asking for the impossible just because
we're used to colin delivering the goods....
how about a pattern edit mode that follows the playlist? or at least
until you start changing a pattern, then it could be "locked" into the
edit buffer...

so- you'd go into playlist edit & then into pattern edit. the step
display would follow the playlist, showing each pattern in turn, until
you changed something. if you then saved it or discarded the changes,
the step display would immediately "catch up" with what the playlist
is doing. make sense?
I think this is sort of analogous to the way playlist edit works...

y'see, I keep trying to edit the wrong pattern, & wondering why I
can't hear anything changing. I have to drop the machine into pattern
edit while the right pattern's playing. 
& when I finish tweaking the right pattern & save it, the p3 drops
back out to play mode, when actually I want to select & edit the next
pattern in the playlist.... so I've got to go back into playlist edit
mode first.
what am I doing wrong?

d.

ferrograph632 wrote:

>
>actually, I think it does work.
>  
>
It does. I guess someone wanted the convenience of doing it at a single 
stroke and erasing all patterns whether they were in a playlist or not.
I think (and I'm more guilty of this than most) that sometimes we just 
ask for things cos Colin always seems able to accomodate us, even when 
there's already a solution or workaround. But then I've always been 
greedy and never found anyone quite so willing to "make it so" before. 
Hence the evolution of this, my ultimate piece of hardware. Now, if only 
it...

>anyone near their p3 now?
>  
>
Always <g>

Paul

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ferrograph632 wrote:

>y'see, I keep trying to edit the wrong pattern, & wondering why I
>can't hear anything changing. I have to drop the machine into pattern
>edit while the right pattern's playing. 
>  
>
Why not go into pattern edit direct from playlist edit? I'm thinking 
maybe you'd want to freeze the playlist at that point too, which I guess 
is another button push but still do-able?

Paul

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>>Why not go into pattern edit direct from playlist edit? I'm thinking
maybe you'd want to freeze the playlist at that point too, which I
guess is another button push but still do-able?<<

I want to leave the playlist (of several patterns) running, & watch
them all running through (i.e. see the step lights going on & off as
the playlist runs onto each successive pattern) so I know when I'm
looking at the one I want to edit. then I want the playlist to keep
running through the patterns while I interfere with the one that's
frozen in front of me. then I want to commit my changes & see the
whole playlist running past again, one pattern at a time.
what I do at the moment is not look at the p3 at all, but just drop
the whole playlist into record & carefully punch in the right notes as
they come past, but sometimes I klutz it up &, of course, the changes
are instantly committed. y'see?

d.

On Fri, 28 Oct 2005, ferrograph632 wrote:

> I want to leave the playlist (of several patterns) running, & watch
> them all running through (i.e. see the step lights going on & off as
> the playlist runs onto each successive pattern) so I know when I'm
> looking at the one I want to edit. then I want the playlist to keep
> running through the patterns while I interfere with the one that's
> frozen in front of me. then I want to commit my changes & see the
> whole playlist running past again, one pattern at a time.

that would be very useful for me as well...

bleep.
out.

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I often have to hold down my parts when I get stoned in a global bar.
it varies, depending on the scenery. thank heavens it's friday.

d.

>>(similar to surface tension because flies walk on it) by shifting
something out of its natural scale<<

even without being able to transpose it simultaneously &
properly-harmonically, I have got reinspired by the wretched maq
simply by letting the p3 F it T S & then holding down just two of my
parts with different scales on their eyes. 
you can write lines- of ephemeral significance to the piece,
generally, but nevertheless it gives the non-p3-user summat to do-
that don't need to be transposed so long as they are playing from the
correct selection of notes. 
there's a proper music-school term for this
only-doing-half-a-key-change, I'm sure. 

so the p3 changes key properly (chromatic shift + change of scale)
while the maq stays on the same root... unless the maq's root is one
of the notes that changes.....
but I get a stuck note on the middle row. I have to peel the skin off
the p3 again & see if this new PIC thingy makes any difference. while
I'm about it I'll try another maq. aye.
d.

Hey gang, not been any tips for a while and I suspect a few new folks 
have joined lately. So I thought (to my stoned self), why not remind 
everyone how cool the global bar is?

http://www.bogusfocus.com/mp3/P3/P3_GlobalBarFun.mp3

This is a little demo based on a simple 16 step sequence that you hear 
at first. Listen to how it changes during the playback. This was done 
using consecutive part play (posh term for holding down all your parts) 
with each part having a global bar and repeats as follows:

Part1 Gbar 16 Repeats 4
Part2 Gbar 24 Repeats 3
part3 Gbar 6 Repeats 8
part4 Gbar 42 Repeats 2
part 5  Gbar 6 Repeats 4
part 6 Gbar 1 Repeats 8
Part7 Gbar 4 Repeats 4
Part8 Gbar 8 Repeats 4

OK, I faded in a couple of other tracks towards the end cos I couldn't 
help it... anyway, it's a simple little noodle but you can see that 
things can be quite varied nicely, just by playing with the dear old 
global bar.

Maybe a useful technique to liven things up now and again (if done 
subtly - i.e. not like this)? And better still, it takes no effort, 
requires no delving into aux events and can be set up interactively as 
you play.

Paul

ferrograph632 wrote:

>I often have to hold down my parts when I get stoned in a global bar.
>it varies, depending on the scenery. thank heavens it's friday.
>  
>
I love Fridays!
BTW there's another in the same location now - a little Force To Scale 
demo showing how you can generate musical tension (similar to surface 
tension because flies walk on it) by shifting something out of its 
natural scale (after you first go back and set all those fecking Xs to 
off cos you accidentally recorded them!) then back in again. The effect 
is obvious (in this case) but effective.

Ahar.

(Paul)


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Paul Nagle / Soft Room Music / Bogus Focus Records / Binar / Headshock / The Joint Intelligence Committee
        www.softroom.co.uk / www.BogusFocus.com / www.JointIntelligenceCommittee.com

--- In analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com, Paul Nagle <softroom@b...>
wrote:
>
> Hey gang, not been any tips for a while and I suspect a few new folks 
> have joined lately. So I thought (to my stoned self), why not remind 
> everyone how cool the global bar is?

Thanks Paul! 

Today, I've been tidying up the sequence I made on the fly at the
coffeehouse last weekend, and took your suggestion to heart (song
starts and ends on Part2, looping thru twice):

Part1 Gbar 16 Repeats 4
Part2 Gbar 24 Repeats 3
Part3 Gbar 6 Repeats 8
Part4 Gbar 42 Repeats 2
Part5 Gbar 6 Repeats 4
Part6 Gbar 7 Repeats 4
Part7 Gbar 22 Repeats 4
Part8 Gbar 23 Repeats 4

I took advantage of adding and subtracking tracks on each part, and a
few of the tracks have some auxes happening. P3 + Nova + Morpheus + ER-1.

http://www.touchxtone.com/mp3s/CoffeehouseBells.mp3

Thanks for the suggestion/tip!

-Jim
www.touchxtone.com

--- In analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com, "Gert van Santen"
<g.vansanten@c...> wrote:
> Hey, is it Christmas already?
> 
> (just kidding ;-)

It does have a holiday music box feel doesn't it? Michael and I have
our annual TouchXmas holiday show at JavaMonkey on Dec. 17. Will have
to include this in the set!

-Jim

jimcombsus wrote:
 
> I took advantage of adding and subtracking tracks on each part, and a
> few of the tracks have some auxes happening. P3 + Nova + Morpheus +
> ER-1. 
> 
> http://www.touchxtone.com/mp3s/CoffeehouseBells.mp3
> 
> Thanks for the suggestion/tip!

Hey, is it Christmas already?

(just kidding ;-)

Very nice, Jim!

Gert
www.waveworld.tv

jimcombsus wrote:
> --- In analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com, "Gert van Santen"
> <g.vansanten@c...> wrote:
>> Hey, is it Christmas already?
>> 
>> (just kidding ;-)
> 
> It does have a holiday music box feel doesn't it? Michael and I have
> our annual TouchXmas holiday show at JavaMonkey on Dec. 17. Will have
> to include this in the set!

I'm quite sure it will be a success!

:-)

Gert
www.waveworld.tv

jimcombsus wrote:

>
>I took advantage of adding and subtracking tracks on each part, and a
>few of the tracks have some auxes happening. P3 + Nova + Morpheus + ER-1.
>
>http://www.touchxtone.com/mp3s/CoffeehouseBells.mp3
>  
>
And very lovely/intricate it is - for some reason it conjures up images 
of a steely matron checking charts in a  baby robot nursery.... but then 
my coffee just produced a vivid impression of a hazy sunrise over a 
noisome swamp. Maybe I'll leave the magic mushrooms alone today.

Sweet work dude!

Paul

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