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Why the knob color change?

Why the knob color change?

2005-11-01 by monads

K, well just picked up my P3 from analoguehaven :) and am loving it.  
But why was the knob color changed (black & grey)?  I really like the 
colored ones to differentiate between sections and I hope I can get 
these colored ones.

RE: [analogue-sequencer] Why the knob color change?

2005-11-01 by Colin f

> K, well just picked up my P3 from analoguehaven :) and am loving it.  
> But why was the knob color changed (black & grey)?  I really like the 
> colored ones to differentiate between sections and I hope I can get 
> these colored ones.

The switch to grey & white came about because I had some feedback that the
darker colours were difficult to see under stage lighting, and a sample of
people I asked preferred the look of it. The sections still alternate the
two colours.
I guess you can't please all the people...
A set of multi-coloured knobs can be supplied at cost plus postage, if you
really prefer them.

Best regards,
Colin Fraser
Sequentix Music Systems Ltd
http://www.sequentix.com

RE: [analogue-sequencer] Why the knob color change?

2005-11-02 by Colin f

> Can you send me a picture of the P3 with black&grey knobs? I 
> can't find it
> on the website and I would be interested in trading with my 
> colored knobs...

I've updated the gallery page with a photo of the new colour scheme.
The knobs have grey & white markers, and the blue panel screening has been
made darker to provide more contrast in poor light.
Note that the colour balance in the new photo isn't quite right, the case is
still the same colour of silver.
I'll take some better photos soon, and not leave the wrong white balance
settings on my camera.

Best regards,
Colin Fraser
Sequentix Music Systems Ltd
http://www.sequentix.com

RE: [analogue-sequencer] Why the knob color change?

2005-11-02 by Colin f

> I've updated the gallery page with a photo of the new colour scheme.

Which is here, to save you hunting...
http://www.sequentix.com/sq_gallery.htm


Best regards,
Colin Fraser
Sequentix Music Systems Ltd
http://www.sequentix.com

Re: [analogue-sequencer] Why the knob color change?

2005-11-02 by ERiC

Hi Monads,
Can you send me a picture of the P3 with black&grey knobs? I can't find it
on the website and I would be interested in trading with my colored knobs...
Cheers,
Eric

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Subject: [analogue-sequencer] Why the knob color change?


> K, well just picked up my P3 from analoguehaven :) and am loving it.
> But why was the knob color changed (black & grey)?  I really like the
> colored ones to differentiate between sections and I hope I can get
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Re: Why the knob color change?

2005-11-02 by monads

I don't see the picture posted with the new scheme at all.  All those 
pictures have the colored ones.

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> > I've updated the gallery page with a photo of the new colour scheme.
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> Which is here, to save you hunting...
> http://www.sequentix.com/sq_gallery.htm
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> Best regards,
> Colin Fraser
> Sequentix Music Systems Ltd
> http://www.sequentix.com
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RE: [analogue-sequencer] Re: Why the knob color change?

2005-11-02 by Colin f

> I don't see the picture posted with the new scheme at all.  All those 
> pictures have the colored ones.

Maybe you need to refresh the page in your browser.
It's the top picture on the page.
The direct link to the new image is
http://www.sequentix.com/gallery/p3-1.6.jpg

Best regards,
Colin Fraser
Sequentix Music Systems Ltd
http://www.sequentix.com

Re: [analogue-sequencer] Why the knob color change?

2005-11-02 by Nick Rothwell

> Which is here, to save you hunting...
> http://www.sequentix.com/sq_gallery.htm

I, for one, welcome our new monochromatically-styled overlords.


   nick rothwell -- composition, systems, performance -- http:// 
www.cassiel.com

P3 with silver-brushed faceplate & blue LED's

2005-11-03 by Alex Reid

I consulted with Colin a few weeks ago and legend has it that getting all blue LED"s on the P3 would be too difficult as the parts come standard.

I've modified TB-303 and TR-606's before in which all LED's were replaced with blue ones.  If there's enough demand, maybe we could get something going and maybe get the LED"s modified?

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Montreal, Canada
Minimal Dub Techno Producer & DJ
http://www.signals-systems.com
a@signals-systems.com




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RE: [analogue-sequencer] P3 with silver-brushed faceplate & blue LED's

2005-11-03 by Colin f

> I consulted with Colin a few weeks ago and legend has it that 
> getting all blue LED"s on the P3 would be too difficult as 
> the parts come standard.
> 
> I've modified TB-303 and TR-606's before in which all LED's 
> were replaced with blue ones.  If there's enough demand, 
> maybe we could get something going and maybe get the LED"s modified?

The issue with P3 is that the step LEDs are tri-colour - containing both a
red and green LED element.
I have no source for red/blue tri-colour LEDs so have to use RGB LEDs and
only wire the red and blue elements.
These LEDs are 10x the price of the standard tri-colour parts, so I don't
want to keep them in stock.

However, since I've had a few more queries about it, I am going to offer a
custom option of red/blue (and magenta) step LEDs for red/green colour-blind
users.
This will cost an extra 20 ukp.

Best regards,
Colin Fraser
Sequentix Music Systems Ltd
http://www.sequentix.com

Re: P3 with silver-brushed faceplate & blue LED's

2005-11-03 by tmoravan

--- In analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com, "Colin f" <colin@c...> 
wrote:
>
>  
> > I consulted with Colin a few weeks ago and legend has it that 
> > getting all blue LED"s on the P3 would be too difficult as 
> > the parts come standard.
> > 
> > I've modified TB-303 and TR-606's before in which all LED's 
> > were replaced with blue ones.  If there's enough demand, 
> > maybe we could get something going and maybe get the LED"s 
modified?
> 
> The issue with P3 is that the step LEDs are tri-colour - containing 
both a
> red and green LED element.
> I have no source for red/blue tri-colour LEDs so have to use RGB 
LEDs and
> only wire the red and blue elements.
> These LEDs are 10x the price of the standard tri-colour parts, so I 
don't
> want to keep them in stock.
> 
> However, since I've had a few more queries about it, I am going to 
offer a
> custom option of red/blue (and magenta) step LEDs for red/green 
colour-blind
> users.
> This will cost an extra 20 ukp.
> 

True.  I recently switched mine out for better visibility.  The RGB 
LEDs are more expensive (I think mine were $1.49 each or so), but for 
a single buyer, 16 LEDs is not much.  If Colin had to stock them as 
standard, that would be a lot of capital tied up in LEDs.

One other thing to note - I built a small test circuit to experiment 
with different resistor values.  the RGB LEDs I bought were way too 
bright using the stock resistor values in the P3.  It would be nice 
to be able to tailor that to some degree because I'm sure each user 
is different.  Based on the P3 design, I didn't think you could use a 
single trim pot as a variable resistance since it's grouped by fours 
plus you might want control over R and B separately.

Re: [analogue-sequencer] Re: P3 with silver-brushed faceplate & blue LED's

2005-11-03 by Alex R.

this is called sweeter than baby jesus:
http://jmsb.concordia.ca/~alexa_re/IM001874.jpg



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Montreal, Canada
Minimal Dub Techno Producer & DJ
http://www.signals-systems.com
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  Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 7:31 AM
  Subject: [analogue-sequencer] Re: P3 with silver-brushed faceplate & blue LED's


  --- In analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com, "Colin f" <colin@c...> 
  wrote:
  >
  >  
  > > I consulted with Colin a few weeks ago and legend has it that 
  > > getting all blue LED"s on the P3 would be too difficult as 
  > > the parts come standard.
  > > 
  > > I've modified TB-303 and TR-606's before in which all LED's 
  > > were replaced with blue ones.  If there's enough demand, 
  > > maybe we could get something going and maybe get the LED"s 
  modified?
  > 
  > The issue with P3 is that the step LEDs are tri-colour - containing 
  both a
  > red and green LED element.
  > I have no source for red/blue tri-colour LEDs so have to use RGB 
  LEDs and
  > only wire the red and blue elements.
  > These LEDs are 10x the price of the standard tri-colour parts, so I 
  don't
  > want to keep them in stock.
  > 
  > However, since I've had a few more queries about it, I am going to 
  offer a
  > custom option of red/blue (and magenta) step LEDs for red/green 
  colour-blind
  > users.
  > This will cost an extra 20 ukp.
  > 

  True.  I recently switched mine out for better visibility.  The RGB 
  LEDs are more expensive (I think mine were $1.49 each or so), but for 
  a single buyer, 16 LEDs is not much.  If Colin had to stock them as 
  standard, that would be a lot of capital tied up in LEDs.

  One other thing to note - I built a small test circuit to experiment 
  with different resistor values.  the RGB LEDs I bought were way too 
  bright using the stock resistor values in the P3.  It would be nice 
  to be able to tailor that to some degree because I'm sure each user 
  is different.  Based on the P3 design, I didn't think you could use a 
  single trim pot as a variable resistance since it's grouped by fours 
  plus you might want control over R and B separately.






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Re: P3 with silver-brushed faceplate & blue LED's

2005-11-03 by ferrograph632

>>However, since I've had a few more queries about it, I am going to 
offer a custom option of red/blue (and magenta) step LEDs for 
red/green colour-blind users.
This will cost an extra 20 ukp.<<

at which point #73 will no longer be unique.... :-(
it does look nice, even if blue leds are a bit chavvy.

you'll need to do a revision to the manual for these customers. #73 
was my first p3, & I couldn't use it until I'd been through the 
manual & altered all the references to colour. 
round here, people stick blue leds on the fronts of their cars for no 
discernible reason.

I for one would welcome the return to step sequencers of the good old 
electric light bulb. I made a sequencer once out of an old cassette 
motor & a rotary switch, that used torch bulbs. it was the coolest 
thing I've ever seen & I wish I still had it. there's something about 
the way the light decays at more-or-less the same rate as the note.

will try beta 26 over the weekend with my midi-bass. I can very 
easily generate consecutive note-ons with no corresponding offs, if 
I've been at the herbal trumpet.

duncan.

RE: [analogue-sequencer] Re: P3 with silver-brushed faceplate & blue LED's

2005-11-03 by Colin f

> I want a step sequencer with a user interface comprised entirely of  
> nixie tubes.

I considered doing a one off 'vintage' P3, with light-bulbs and nixies, but
those alpha-numeric nixies are very expensive to come by in quantities of
32, and they don't do user-defined characters too well...

Best regards,
Colin Fraser
Sequentix Music Systems Ltd
http://www.sequentix.com

Re: [analogue-sequencer] Re: P3 with silver-brushed faceplate & blue LED's

2005-11-04 by Nick Rothwell

> I for one would welcome the return to step sequencers of the good old
> electric light bulb.

Light bulbs? That's just so ... commodity.

I want a step sequencer with a user interface comprised entirely of  
nixie tubes.


   nick rothwell -- composition, systems, performance -- http:// 
www.cassiel.com

Re: P3 with silver-brushed faceplate & blue LED's

2005-11-04 by Steve

> I for one would welcome the return to step sequencers of the good 
old 
> electric light bulb. 

Synthesizer.com have just made available a replica of the Moog 960 
sequencer which has "light bulbs",It looks pretty good in the dark.
I,ve been controlling mine with my P3 (Old school meets new school)

Cheers then ---- Steve

Re: light bulbs

2005-11-05 by ferrograph632

>>Synthesizer.com have just made available a replica of the Moog 960 
> sequencer which has "light bulbs",It looks pretty good in the dark.
> I,ve been controlling mine with my P3 (Old school meets new school)<<

I had a long hard look at it, & almost laid down the wonga for one back 
in january. then I decided to get another p3 instead.
right now I'm wondering if I can get the p3 to do something interesting 
to an arp 16xx that just turned up (cheers tom!). trouble is, as nagle 
keeps telling us, the arp "sounds" great on it's own. today it's 
talking to a pro-1 & a prodigal.

why is kate moss bouncing up & down? looks rude.....

d.

Re: [analogue-sequencer] P3 with silver-brushed faceplate & blue LED's

2005-11-15 by Richard Scott

FYI I just fitted my board with blue leds sourced from Colin. It looks great and is very much easier to read for anyone with colour recognition issues. The lights are not too bright either - for me its a very important upgrade

Richard
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  Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 2:37 AM
  Subject: [analogue-sequencer] P3 with silver-brushed faceplate & blue LED's


  I consulted with Colin a few weeks ago and legend has it that getting all blue LED"s on the P3 would be too difficult as the parts come standard.

  I've modified TB-303 and TR-606's before in which all LED's were replaced with blue ones.  If there's enough demand, maybe we could get something going and maybe get the LED"s modified?

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  Montreal, Canada
  Minimal Dub Techno Producer & DJ
  http://www.signals-systems.com
  a@signals-systems.com




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Re: [analogue-sequencer] P3 with silver-brushed faceplate & blue LED's

2005-11-15 by Nick Rothwell

> FYI I just fitted my board with blue leds sourced from Colin. It  
> looks great and is very much easier to read for anyone with colour  
> recognition issues.

Any chance of a photo or two?


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Re: P3 with silver-brushed faceplate & blue LED's

2005-11-15 by tmoravan

--- In analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com, Nick Rothwell <nick@c...> 
wrote:
>
> > FYI I just fitted my board with blue leds sourced from Colin. It  
> > looks great and is very much easier to read for anyone with colour  
> > recognition issues.
> 
> Any chance of a photo or two?
> 
> 

Don't know about anyone else, but the P3 seems to be difficult to 
photograph properly.  I can never get just the right lighting on it.  
I've also tried to get the blue LEDs (actually all 3 variants - blue, 
magenta, and red) and they always appear too washed out and blended 
together in color, even in low light.  I guess it really points out the 
limitations of average digital cameras......

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