I agree. In addition there are the vacuum tube osciallators, the different diffusors (loudspeakers) etc. As with any real instrument, the original can not be replicated. I regard attempts to recreate sounds as an intellectual exercise. I would never use a 'realistic' violin sound in an electronic track. I am, however, quite interested in understanding how the violin sound is created and will try to emulate it, simply to see what makes it up. So I don't think trying o recreate an Ondes Martenot is illgitimate, especially in the context of Analgue Systems who, after all, have dedicated a playing device to that goal. What brought me to modular synthesis was a similar attempt, the recreation of the Mixturtrautonium by Doepfer. Also not to be confused with the original, but very interesting nonetheless. ________________________________ From: Monroe Eskew <monroe.eskew@gmail.com> To: analogue_systems@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 21:30:33 Subject: Re: [analogue_systems] ondes martenot I don't believe the sound can be replicated without the subtle pitch and volume modulations that come from the control mechanism. A synthesized human voice will not sound like a real person singing. The sound of an instrument is much more than the waveform; it is the expression in the playing. Monroe On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 8:54 AM, York Luethje <ybl@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > Hi Tobin, > > Never played an Ondes Martenot but from what I heard and read it's > basically > a valve-based oscillator with a VCA. Timbres resemble your standard > waveforms: triangle, square etc. > > The real diffentiating factors are the loudspeakers. You have four: A > traditional one, one that uses a gong as diaphragm, one with a spring > reverb > and one with strings for resonance. Of course you also have the playing > mechanism (the AS French Connection was developed expressly to copy that). > > Patching up the first part should be straightforward: OSC - VCA (controlled > by an envelope). > > Part two is more difficult. The VCA output must be routed in parallel to a > spring reverb and a ring modulator (for the metallic overtones). Harmomic > resonance is more difficult to replicate but you could try using several > filters tuned to different frequencies (I've had surprisingly good results > using the Doepfer A-127). The outputs of all three building blocks are then > summed together in a mixer to provide the final output. > > If you don't have a French Connection you can approximate the playing style > using a ribbon controller (such as the Doepfer R2M). > > Hope this helps, > > York > > _____ > > Von: analogue_systems@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:analogue_systems@yahoogroups.com] Im Auftrag von jones_tobin > Gesendet: Montag, 11. April 2011 13:22 > An: analogue_systems@yahoogroups.com > Betreff: [analogue_systems] ondes martenot > > > Hey guys > > I am new to synthesis but am really keen to learn more. > At the studio I work at we have an AS Systems 8500 and a Sorceror Keyboard. > Just wondering if any one has a patch Diagram for making an Ondes Martenot > type sound, any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Cheers > > Tobin > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [analogue_systems] ondes martenot
2011-04-14 by york luethje
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