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Re: [analogue_systems] ondes martenot

2011-04-14 by york luethje

I agree. In addition there are the vacuum tube osciallators, the different 
diffusors (loudspeakers) etc. As with any real instrument, the original can not 
be replicated.

I regard attempts to recreate sounds as an intellectual exercise. I would never 
use a 'realistic' violin sound in an electronic track. I am, however, quite 
interested in understanding how the violin sound is created and will try to 
emulate it, simply to see what makes it up.

So I don't think trying o recreate an Ondes Martenot is illgitimate, especially 
in the context of Analgue Systems who, after all, have dedicated a playing 
device to that goal. 


What brought me to modular synthesis was a similar attempt, the recreation of 
the Mixturtrautonium by Doepfer. Also not to be confused with the original, but 
very interesting nonetheless. 




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From: Monroe Eskew <monroe.eskew@gmail.com>
To: analogue_systems@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 21:30:33
Subject: Re: [analogue_systems] ondes martenot

I don't believe the sound can be replicated without the subtle pitch and
volume modulations that come from the control mechanism.  A synthesized
human voice will not sound like a real person singing.  The sound of an
instrument is much more than the waveform; it is the expression in the
playing.

Monroe

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 8:54 AM, York Luethje <ybl@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> Hi Tobin,
>
> Never played an Ondes Martenot but from what I heard and read it's
> basically
> a valve-based oscillator with a VCA. Timbres resemble your standard
> waveforms: triangle, square etc.
>
> The real diffentiating factors are the loudspeakers. You have four: A
> traditional one, one that uses a gong as diaphragm, one with a spring
> reverb
> and one with strings for resonance. Of course you also have the playing
> mechanism (the AS French Connection was developed expressly to copy that).
>
> Patching up the first part should be straightforward: OSC - VCA (controlled
> by an envelope).
>
> Part two is more difficult. The VCA output must be routed in parallel to a
> spring reverb and a ring modulator (for the metallic overtones). Harmomic
> resonance is more difficult to replicate but you could try using several
> filters tuned to different frequencies (I've had surprisingly good results
> using the Doepfer A-127). The outputs of all three building blocks are then
> summed together in a mixer to provide the final output.
>
> If you don't have a French Connection you can approximate the playing style
> using a ribbon controller (such as the Doepfer R2M).
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> York
>
> _____
>
> Von: analogue_systems@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:analogue_systems@yahoogroups.com] Im Auftrag von jones_tobin
> Gesendet: Montag, 11. April 2011 13:22
> An: analogue_systems@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: [analogue_systems] ondes martenot
>
>
> Hey guys
>
> I am new to synthesis but am really keen to learn more.
> At the studio I work at we have an AS Systems 8500 and a Sorceror Keyboard.
> Just wondering if any one has a patch Diagram for making an Ondes Martenot
> type sound, any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Cheers
>
> Tobin
>
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>
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>


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