Analogue systems

Thank you to all of you this is great information and gives me a point in the right direction. I'm just going to experiment and see what happens.
Tim P yeah the info about that book would be great cheers.


--- In analogue_systems@yahoogroups.com, tim p <target9@...> wrote:
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> Hi everyone, I was recently gifted a book on synthesis (coincidentally by the chap that sold me his RS Integrators) that dealt with the synthesis of various instruments.
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> If interested, I could pull the name and author.
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> On 14 Apr 2011, at 03:14, "york luethje" <ybl@...> wrote:
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> > I agree. In addition there are the vacuum tube osciallators, the different 
> > diffusors (loudspeakers) etc. As with any real instrument, the original can not 
> > be replicated.
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> > I regard attempts to recreate sounds as an intellectual exercise. I would never 
> > use a 'realistic' violin sound in an electronic track. I am, however, quite 
> > interested in understanding how the violin sound is created and will try to 
> > emulate it, simply to see what makes it up.
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> > So I don't think trying o recreate an Ondes Martenot is illgitimate, especially 
> > in the context of Analgue Systems who, after all, have dedicated a playing 
> > device to that goal. 
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> > What brought me to modular synthesis was a similar attempt, the recreation of 
> > the Mixturtrautonium by Doepfer. Also not to be confused with the original, but 
> > very interesting nonetheless. 
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> > ________________________________
> > From: Monroe Eskew <monroe.eskew@...>
> > To: analogue_systems@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 21:30:33
> > Subject: Re: [analogue_systems] ondes martenot
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> > I don't believe the sound can be replicated without the subtle pitch and
> > volume modulations that come from the control mechanism. A synthesized
> > human voice will not sound like a real person singing. The sound of an
> > instrument is much more than the waveform; it is the expression in the
> > playing.
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> > Monroe
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> > On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 8:54 AM, York Luethje <ybl@...> wrote:
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> > > Hi Tobin,
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> > > Never played an Ondes Martenot but from what I heard and read it's
> > > basically
> > > a valve-based oscillator with a VCA. Timbres resemble your standard
> > > waveforms: triangle, square etc.
> > >
> > > The real diffentiating factors are the loudspeakers. You have four: A
> > > traditional one, one that uses a gong as diaphragm, one with a spring
> > > reverb
> > > and one with strings for resonance. Of course you also have the playing
> > > mechanism (the AS French Connection was developed expressly to copy that).
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> > > Patching up the first part should be straightforward: OSC - VCA (controlled
> > > by an envelope).
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> > > Part two is more difficult. The VCA output must be routed in parallel to a
> > > spring reverb and a ring modulator (for the metallic overtones). Harmomic
> > > resonance is more difficult to replicate but you could try using several
> > > filters tuned to different frequencies (I've had surprisingly good results
> > > using the Doepfer A-127). The outputs of all three building blocks are then
> > > summed together in a mixer to provide the final output.
> > >
> > > If you don't have a French Connection you can approximate the playing style
> > > using a ribbon controller (such as the Doepfer R2M).
> > >
> > > Hope this helps,
> > >
> > > York
> > >
> > > _____
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> > > Von: analogue_systems@yahoogroups.com
> > > [mailto:analogue_systems@yahoogroups.com] Im Auftrag von jones_tobin
> > > Gesendet: Montag, 11. April 2011 13:22
> > > An: analogue_systems@yahoogroups.com
> > > Betreff: [analogue_systems] ondes martenot
> > >
> > >
> > > Hey guys
> > >
> > > I am new to synthesis but am really keen to learn more.
> > > At the studio I work at we have an AS Systems 8500 and a Sorceror Keyboard.
> > > Just wondering if any one has a patch Diagram for making an Ondes Martenot
> > > type sound, any help would be greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Tobin
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