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Re: [analogue_systems] ondes martenot

2011-04-14 by tim p

Hi everyone, I was recently gifted a book on synthesis (coincidentally by the chap that sold me his RS Integrators) that dealt with the synthesis of various instruments.

If interested, I could pull the name and author.

Cheers







On 14 Apr 2011, at 03:14, "york luethje" <ybl@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I agree. In addition there are the vacuum tube osciallators, the different 
> diffusors (loudspeakers) etc. As with any real instrument, the original can not 
> be replicated.
> 
> I regard attempts to recreate sounds as an intellectual exercise. I would never 
> use a 'realistic' violin sound in an electronic track. I am, however, quite 
> interested in understanding how the violin sound is created and will try to 
> emulate it, simply to see what makes it up.
> 
> So I don't think trying o recreate an Ondes Martenot is illgitimate, especially 
> in the context of Analgue Systems who, after all, have dedicated a playing 
> device to that goal. 
> 
> What brought me to modular synthesis was a similar attempt, the recreation of 
> the Mixturtrautonium by Doepfer. Also not to be confused with the original, but 
> very interesting nonetheless. 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Monroe Eskew <monroe.eskew@gmail.com>
> To: analogue_systems@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 21:30:33
> Subject: Re: [analogue_systems] ondes martenot
> 
> I don't believe the sound can be replicated without the subtle pitch and
> volume modulations that come from the control mechanism. A synthesized
> human voice will not sound like a real person singing. The sound of an
> instrument is much more than the waveform; it is the expression in the
> playing.
> 
> Monroe
> 
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 8:54 AM, York Luethje <ybl@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > Hi Tobin,
> >
> > Never played an Ondes Martenot but from what I heard and read it's
> > basically
> > a valve-based oscillator with a VCA. Timbres resemble your standard
> > waveforms: triangle, square etc.
> >
> > The real diffentiating factors are the loudspeakers. You have four: A
> > traditional one, one that uses a gong as diaphragm, one with a spring
> > reverb
> > and one with strings for resonance. Of course you also have the playing
> > mechanism (the AS French Connection was developed expressly to copy that).
> >
> > Patching up the first part should be straightforward: OSC - VCA (controlled
> > by an envelope).
> >
> > Part two is more difficult. The VCA output must be routed in parallel to a
> > spring reverb and a ring modulator (for the metallic overtones). Harmomic
> > resonance is more difficult to replicate but you could try using several
> > filters tuned to different frequencies (I've had surprisingly good results
> > using the Doepfer A-127). The outputs of all three building blocks are then
> > summed together in a mixer to provide the final output.
> >
> > If you don't have a French Connection you can approximate the playing style
> > using a ribbon controller (such as the Doepfer R2M).
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> >
> > York
> >
> > _____
> >
> > Von: analogue_systems@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:analogue_systems@yahoogroups.com] Im Auftrag von jones_tobin
> > Gesendet: Montag, 11. April 2011 13:22
> > An: analogue_systems@yahoogroups.com
> > Betreff: [analogue_systems] ondes martenot
> >
> >
> > Hey guys
> >
> > I am new to synthesis but am really keen to learn more.
> > At the studio I work at we have an AS Systems 8500 and a Sorceror Keyboard.
> > Just wondering if any one has a patch Diagram for making an Ondes Martenot
> > type sound, any help would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Tobin
> >
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> >
> > 
> >
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