Analogue systems

A Synthesist's Guide to Acoustic Instruments

Howard Massey , Alex Noyes , Dan Shklair 

A step by step guide to understanding why different instruments sound the way they do...





On 14 Apr 2011, at 09:26, "tim p" <target9@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Hi everyone, I was recently gifted a book on synthesis (coincidentally by the chap that sold me his RS Integrators) that dealt with the synthesis of various instruments.
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> If interested, I could pull the name and author.
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> Cheers
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> On 14 Apr 2011, at 03:14, "york luethje" <ybl@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> I agree. In addition there are the vacuum tube osciallators, the different 
>> diffusors (loudspeakers) etc. As with any real instrument, the original can not 
>> be replicated.
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>> I regard attempts to recreate sounds as an intellectual exercise. I would never 
>> use a 'realistic' violin sound in an electronic track. I am, however, quite 
>> interested in understanding how the violin sound is created and will try to 
>> emulate it, simply to see what makes it up.
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>> So I don't think trying o recreate an Ondes Martenot is illgitimate, especially 
>> in the context of Analgue Systems who, after all, have dedicated a playing 
>> device to that goal. 
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>> What brought me to modular synthesis was a similar attempt, the recreation of 
>> the Mixturtrautonium by Doepfer. Also not to be confused with the original, but 
>> very interesting nonetheless. 
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>> ________________________________
>> From: Monroe Eskew <monroe.eskew@gmail.com>
>> To: analogue_systems@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 21:30:33
>> Subject: Re: [analogue_systems] ondes martenot
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>> I don't believe the sound can be replicated without the subtle pitch and
>> volume modulations that come from the control mechanism. A synthesized
>> human voice will not sound like a real person singing. The sound of an
>> instrument is much more than the waveform; it is the expression in the
>> playing.
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>> Monroe
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>> On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 8:54 AM, York Luethje <ybl@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> > Hi Tobin,
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>> > Never played an Ondes Martenot but from what I heard and read it's
>> > basically
>> > a valve-based oscillator with a VCA. Timbres resemble your standard
>> > waveforms: triangle, square etc.
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>> > The real diffentiating factors are the loudspeakers. You have four: A
>> > traditional one, one that uses a gong as diaphragm, one with a spring
>> > reverb
>> > and one with strings for resonance. Of course you also have the playing
>> > mechanism (the AS French Connection was developed expressly to copy that).
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>> > Patching up the first part should be straightforward: OSC - VCA (controlled
>> > by an envelope).
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>> > Part two is more difficult. The VCA output must be routed in parallel to a
>> > spring reverb and a ring modulator (for the metallic overtones). Harmomic
>> > resonance is more difficult to replicate but you could try using several
>> > filters tuned to different frequencies (I've had surprisingly good results
>> > using the Doepfer A-127). The outputs of all three building blocks are then
>> > summed together in a mixer to provide the final output.
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>> > If you don't have a French Connection you can approximate the playing style
>> > using a ribbon controller (such as the Doepfer R2M).
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>> > Hope this helps,
>> >
>> > York
>> >
>> > _____
>> >
>> > Von: analogue_systems@yahoogroups.com
>> > [mailto:analogue_systems@yahoogroups.com] Im Auftrag von jones_tobin
>> > Gesendet: Montag, 11. April 2011 13:22
>> > An: analogue_systems@yahoogroups.com
>> > Betreff: [analogue_systems] ondes martenot
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>> > Hey guys
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>> > I am new to synthesis but am really keen to learn more.
>> > At the studio I work at we have an AS Systems 8500 and a Sorceror Keyboard.
>> > Just wondering if any one has a patch Diagram for making an Ondes Martenot
>> > type sound, any help would be greatly appreciated.
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> >
>> > Tobin
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