Analogue systems

hello peter,

yes, i agree with you in the most points.
what i was trying to say is that it is not ok
to have only 10 connectors in a frame as big as the rs15.
it would be ok if the dual or triple cables were free,
just like the standard power cables, but it doesn't look
like that. i can't think of a system with only 10 modules
in a rs15 frame, so you don't have a clue, you have to use
those special cables. i don't care about the money, it is
more a question of principle. maybe i'm just too german?

another thing, the dip sockets are cheap, yes. but there
are other sockets and connectors available which are
much more rigid and they are not much more expensive.
from my point of view it doesn't make sense to save money on
the connectors. would anybody care if the modules would cost
1 pound more than they do? probably not, but it bothers
me when i have to pay 20 euro for a cable with cheap dip sockets,
just to be able to connect another module.

anyway, yesterday i felt really pissed about that, today
i feel much more relaxed. if i have to pay for the cables,
then this will be ok, but i don't think that this will make
me a happy customer.

best wishes

ingo



--- In analogue_systems@yahoogroups.com, Peter Grenader <peter@b...> 
wrote:
> Bob really raised the pole for everyone with the new PSU.  Its much 
better
> mechanically and electrically, but let me just comment briefly on 
the socket
> selection.
> 
> While some of this is my own conclusion, I think it's fair to say 
that
> Analogue Systems, by virtue of coming after Doepfer, was conforming 
to the
> Doepfer standards for power requirements, size, jack type, etc. 
This was a
> supremely intuitive decision on Bob's part as it created a cross 
platform
> which has unquestionably helped his sales.  A brilliant move.
> 
> But - for obvious reasons, he wanted to avoid using other companies 
PSUs if
> at all possible.  It only makes sense.  You can easily guarantee a 
product's
> performance if you can control it's operation.  Once a second party 
product
> is introduced, you then lose a certain amount of control and 
therefore, you
> can no longer unquestionably guarantee the operation.  I'm not 
speaking
> about the user side of the faceplate here, that's 200% compatible - 
I'm
> speaking about it's supply voltage source.  I am also not dissing 
the
> Doepfer PSU.  It's a fine unit, it's just not made by Analogue 
Systems and
> from a manufacturers standpoint, more of a risk.  The very same 
holds true
> with Doepfer modules powered by A. Sys supplies.  It will work 
fine - but
> it's not a controlled situation, that's all.
> 
> So how to you design in exclusivity?  You use another connector 
scheme and
> that's what Bob did.  Analogue Solutions was willing to take that 
risk and
> their modules have accommodations for both the Doepfer inline and 
the A.
> Sys's DIP connections.
> 
> Bob's decision to go with DIP connectors make sense as they are a 
cost
> effective functional alternative to the Doepfer scheme.  You just 
have to be
> careful when connecting them, that's all.  Listen, I've got hands 
as large
> as cricket mallets.  It takes a bit of getting used to, but you do 
and it
> gets easy at that point. One thing I've noticed that really makes
> connections easier is if you remove either the top or bottom panel 
from the
> rack when making multiple connections (like when setting up your 
system
> initially), because it allows you to view things from a shallower 
angle so
> you're not covering up the area you need to see with your hand.
> 
> With Bob's new power distribution panel things are much better off 
because
> he included Doepfer style terminations along with his DIP sockets 
on his new
> motherboard.   He also fused the secondary side of the syste (not 
just the
> AC mains, but the DC voltsges as well) so even if ther is a 
problem, the
> chance of it doing little more than blowing a fuse is distant.
> 
> just my conjecture here...
> 
> - P