Analogue systems

hello again,

i got an email from the german seller which i asked
for the cables. they wrote now that the cable price was
wrong and they cost 10 euros instead of 20 euros.
looks much more comfortable now.

best wishes

ingo



--- In analogue_systems@yahoogroups.com, "selfoscillate" 
<synaptic_music@y...> wrote:
> 
> hello peter,
> 
> yes, i agree with you in the most points.
> what i was trying to say is that it is not ok
> to have only 10 connectors in a frame as big as the rs15.
> it would be ok if the dual or triple cables were free,
> just like the standard power cables, but it doesn't look
> like that. i can't think of a system with only 10 modules
> in a rs15 frame, so you don't have a clue, you have to use
> those special cables. i don't care about the money, it is
> more a question of principle. maybe i'm just too german?
> 
> another thing, the dip sockets are cheap, yes. but there
> are other sockets and connectors available which are
> much more rigid and they are not much more expensive.
> from my point of view it doesn't make sense to save money on
> the connectors. would anybody care if the modules would cost
> 1 pound more than they do? probably not, but it bothers
> me when i have to pay 20 euro for a cable with cheap dip sockets,
> just to be able to connect another module.
> 
> anyway, yesterday i felt really pissed about that, today
> i feel much more relaxed. if i have to pay for the cables,
> then this will be ok, but i don't think that this will make
> me a happy customer.
> 
> best wishes
> 
> ingo
> 
> 
> 
> --- In analogue_systems@yahoogroups.com, Peter Grenader 
<peter@b...> 
> wrote:
> > Bob really raised the pole for everyone with the new PSU.  Its 
much 
> better
> > mechanically and electrically, but let me just comment briefly on 
> the socket
> > selection.
> > 
> > While some of this is my own conclusion, I think it's fair to say 
> that
> > Analogue Systems, by virtue of coming after Doepfer, was 
conforming 
> to the
> > Doepfer standards for power requirements, size, jack type, etc. 
> This was a
> > supremely intuitive decision on Bob's part as it created a cross 
> platform
> > which has unquestionably helped his sales.  A brilliant move.
> > 
> > But - for obvious reasons, he wanted to avoid using other 
companies 
> PSUs if
> > at all possible.  It only makes sense.  You can easily guarantee 
a 
> product's
> > performance if you can control it's operation.  Once a second 
party 
> product
> > is introduced, you then lose a certain amount of control and 
> therefore, you
> > can no longer unquestionably guarantee the operation.  I'm not 
> speaking
> > about the user side of the faceplate here, that's 200% 
compatible - 
> I'm
> > speaking about it's supply voltage source.  I am also not dissing 
> the
> > Doepfer PSU.  It's a fine unit, it's just not made by Analogue 
> Systems and
> > from a manufacturers standpoint, more of a risk.  The very same 
> holds true
> > with Doepfer modules powered by A. Sys supplies.  It will work 
> fine - but
> > it's not a controlled situation, that's all.
> > 
> > So how to you design in exclusivity?  You use another connector 
> scheme and
> > that's what Bob did.  Analogue Solutions was willing to take that 
> risk and
> > their modules have accommodations for both the Doepfer inline and 
> the A.
> > Sys's DIP connections.
> > 
> > Bob's decision to go with DIP connectors make sense as they are a 
> cost
> > effective functional alternative to the Doepfer scheme.  You just 
> have to be
> > careful when connecting them, that's all.  Listen, I've got hands 
> as large
> > as cricket mallets.  It takes a bit of getting used to, but you 
do 
> and it
> > gets easy at that point. One thing I've noticed that really makes
> > connections easier is if you remove either the top or bottom 
panel 
> from the
> > rack when making multiple connections (like when setting up your 
> system
> > initially), because it allows you to view things from a shallower 
> angle so
> > you're not covering up the area you need to see with your hand.
> > 
> > With Bob's new power distribution panel things are much better 
off 
> because
> > he included Doepfer style terminations along with his DIP sockets 
> on his new
> > motherboard.   He also fused the secondary side of the syste (not 
> just the
> > AC mains, but the DC voltsges as well) so even if ther is a 
> problem, the
> > chance of it doing little more than blowing a fuse is distant.
> > 
> > just my conjecture here...
> > 
> > - P