Analogue systems

Hello all. I'm new around here (and having a bit of a struggle with 
this whole user group thingy, so apologies for any repeat posts 
and any other inexplicable goings on), so thought I'd say hi and 
Happy New Year to one and all. And with the formalities out of 
the way...

I see that AS have a unit available incorporating two RS200's, 
designed for the RS8500. It's not immediately obvious to me 
what advantages twin RS200's would bring, (other than having 
16 steps instead of 8) and I wonder if anyone would be able to 
explain what additional possibilities this would open up.

Cheers

> I see that AS have a unit available incorporating two RS200's, 
> designed for the RS8500. It's not immediately obvious to me 
> what advantages twin RS200's would bring, (other than having 
> 16 steps instead of 8) and I wonder if anyone would be able to 
> explain what additional possibilities this would open up.

The most obvious is using a VC switch to switch between "sections" of 
a sequence.  With 2 8 step sequencers you have 4 section of 4 beats.  
With clock dividers and VC switches you can easily create long 
sequences with repeating and cycling motifs.

Another idea would be to clock your sequencers at different rates to 
get odd timing, syncopation, hocketing, triplets, etc.  You can also 
get a 16 step sequence from a single 8 step sequencer with two rows 
of CV.  Just use a VC switch to switch between the rows on every 
cycle. 

more is better etc,etc,etc...

Not that it changes anything, but if I remember correctly, a 8500 
does not include 200's - that case is an add on - a separate 
entity. Also, one does not nessesarily need two sequencers for 
16 steps - you can create a single 16 step bank  by using a 
RS150 Sequential Switch as well - you just toggle between two 
of the existing three sequencer banks on the 200 on step 8.

Regardless...two sequencers are terrific and I applaude Bob for 
incuding the two as a single option. Their benefits are up to the 
user of course and what kind of work they do.  

I've got three.  Not 200's, but three sequencers.  Sometimes i 
use one to transpose the other through a CV mixer, again using 
one stage gate outs to advance the second sequencer so that 
the 'master;' sequencer is offset high or low from the second.

Another interesting trick was used a lot by Mort Subotnick before 
the Buchla 200 was released and before there was such a thing 
a VC control of direction -- that is running two sequencers 
against each other, one with less steps as the other, both being 
drvien by the same clock.  It;s right out of Paul HIndemith's theory 
bookand allows for unpredictablke sequences when the voltage 
of those two are summed, again through a CV mixer.

With a quantizer, it s a breeze to set up so that all of these 
combinations of the (for instance 2 steps against 3) will yeild 
valid musical information.

There are a billion possibilites of two units.  If you can afford 
them, I highly recommend it.

hope this helps,

Peter




--- In analogue_systems@yahoogroups.com, "hogberto" 
<hogberto@m...> wrote:
> Hello all. I'm new around here (and having a bit of a struggle 
with 

> this whole user group thingy, so apologies for any repeat posts 
> and any other inexplicable goings on), so thought I'd say hi and 
> Happy New Year to one and all. And with the formalities out of 
> the way...
> 
> I see that AS have a unit available incorporating two RS200's, 
> designed for the RS8500. It's not immediately obvious to me 
> what advantages twin RS200's would bring, (other than having 
> 16 steps instead of 8) and I wonder if anyone would be able to 
> explain what additional possibilities this would open up.
> 
> Cheers

thanks for the replies guys

the clear message is: the more the merrier!