Analogue systems

I have posted in the photo section a new folder called French 
Connection.  For now I have two scans showing the wave patterns, I 
guess you could say, on an Ondes.

Until I bought the French Connection I had never touched a keyboard 
or synth.  If you have thoughts on how to achieve what the photos 
show, please share.

At this point I have the VCO and VCA with a reverb.

I was asked for my wiring right now. Pretty simple.

keyboard
CV out

to

CV IN/1volt on VCO


next cable

sine output from VCO

to Signal 1 in on VCA.

next cablt

keyboard button out

to 

cv1 in linear on VCA


That is it.

Any suggestions?

Unfortunatly those pics are quite confusing :) 
at the moment you say you only have 1 vco? and you use sine output, 
have you experimnted with saw waves, like you said loriod mentioning 
it to be saw wave fundemental.

it is interesting to see that all the wave forms in the pictures 
seems to be based upon sine, square(pulse) and  saw waves.

hmmm intewresting, much experimentation is needed. 

Do you have a computer and if so, cool edit? it would be interesting 
to record the french connection using different wave settings and 
look at the wave forms produced.

Im also wondering if you could patch the slider(ring) to also control 
the VCO, or another VCO to manipulate the out put wave form, sort of 
like a cross modulation thing. 

let me know what you think, and ill go and ponder over this.


--- In analogue_systems@yahoogroups.com, "surbahars" <kingfm@y...> 
wrote:

> I have posted in the photo section a new folder called French 
> Connection.  For now I have two scans showing the wave patterns, I 
> guess you could say, on an Ondes.
> 
> Until I bought the French Connection I had never touched a keyboard 
> or synth.  If you have thoughts on how to achieve what the photos 
> show, please share.
> 
> At this point I have the VCO and VCA with a reverb.
> 
> I was asked for my wiring right now. Pretty simple.
> 
> keyboard
> CV out
> 
> to
> 
> CV IN/1volt on VCO
> 
> 
> next cable
> 
> sine output from VCO
> 
> to Signal 1 in on VCA.
> 
> next cablt
> 
> keyboard button out
> 
> to 
> 
> cv1 in linear on VCA
> 
> 
> That is it.
> 
> Any suggestions?

For me, my knowledge and my money limit what I can do.  I cant afford enough modules.  I sent in money for one more this PM.  Others will have to wait.  I dont know enough about synths to create what I want to hear.  I dont have cool edit.  I am certainly not attaining what I could with a real Ondes.  The keyboard is too short for some classical pieces I want to play.  There is no vibrato in the keyboard.  I have no resonating speakers.  But... I try not to let the perfect get in the way of the good.  I have my first public performance in a couple of weeks... a suite for Ondes by Darius Milhaud.   And I am working on a couple of others.  And for the first time in a long time I am playing an instrument well enough to really be able to express what I am feeling.   For now that is good enough.
 
 


uelogy <uelogy@hotmail.com> wrote:
Unfortunatly those pics are quite confusing :) 
at the moment you say you only have 1 vco? and you use sine output, 
have you experimnted with saw waves, like you said loriod mentioning 
it to be saw wave fundemental.

it is interesting to see that all the wave forms in the pictures 
seems to be based upon sine, square(pulse) and  saw waves.

hmmm intewresting, much experimentation is needed. 

Do you have a computer and if so, cool edit? it would be interesting 
to record the french connection using different wave settings and 
look at the wave forms produced.

Im also wondering if you could patch the slider(ring) to also control 
the VCO, or another VCO to manipulate the out put wave form, sort of 
like a cross modulation thing. 

let me know what you think, and ill go and ponder over this.


--- In analogue_systems@yahoogroups.com, "surbahars" <kingfm@y...> 
wrote:
> I have posted in the photo section a new folder called French 
> Connection.  For now I have two scans showing the wave patterns, I 
> guess you could say, on an Ondes.
> 
> Until I bought the French Connection I had never touched a keyboard 
> or synth.  If you have thoughts on how to achieve what the photos 
> show, please share.
> 
> At this point I have the VCO and VCA with a reverb.
> 
> I was asked for my wiring right now. Pretty simple.
> 
> keyboard
> CV out
> 
> to
> 
> CV IN/1volt on VCO
> 
> 
> next cable
> 
> sine output from VCO
> 
> to Signal 1 in on VCA.
> 
> next cablt
> 
> keyboard button out
> 
> to 
> 
> cv1 in linear on VCA
> 
> 
> That is it.
> 
> Any suggestions?


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Hello Bryan Lowe

I listened to your piece - it was recommended to me yesterday by Bob 
Williams himself - and I'm now convinced that FC is for me! Thank you 
very, very much.

You may be interested to know that today, by a weird and very nice 
coincidence, I stumbled upon an effect plug-in which goes some way to 
recreating the Ondes' palm and gong resonators. It's called PianoVerb 
and it's available for free from here:

www.pspaudioware.com

It's toward the bottom of the page. It's a VST reverb plug-in which 
recreates the resonance produced by twelve tuned piano strings 
(similar to the palm). The actual effect is more like the Ondes's 
gong resonator, and I must say that, with a bit of tweaking, the 
resulting metallic harmonics are quite close the original. 

I've just quickly processed your piece through it and it sounds very 
nice. There are some artifacts however: sometimes the piano strings 
really do sound too much like piano strings, especially during loud 
glissandi. But I'm encouraged in general. It certainly proves that 
such digital recreations can be done. The next logical step would be 
the creation of dedicated Ondes resonator plug-ins.

If you aren't computer music literate then all this might be useless 
to you because you'd need a VST host programme like Cubase, plus a 
computer with a good sound card to use it. The cost and learning 
curve might be a problem in the short term.

Anyway, when I've figured out how to send mp3s to this board, I'll 
try and post your piece with the new effect on it.

Cheers and good luck with you concert
Heath

That is great.  Thanks.    I will experiment with that after work.   
 
I have a small inheritance coming my way some day, enough to possibly buy an Ondes Martenot called L'ondea, or something like that.... but... it could be that a path like this could make as much sense.
 
Ideally, the FC keyboard would also have the vibrato effect capability and more octaves.  If AS ever wants to build one I would gladly test it!
 
My ultimate goal is to play Three Small Liturgies by Messiaen some day. I htink I posted an audio clip of that pieve in an earlier post.  I have the music and am working on it.
 
Now.. back to work, those news like this is a lot more fun!

		
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Sorry Bryan, I thought that you were new to synths and computer 
stuff. My mistake. Well, do please post back here to let me and 
others know how you got on with the plug-in.

BTW I would mix in another, smoother reverb with PianoVerb because 
although it can do the metallics quite well, it's not a general 
purpose reverb.

Good luck
Heath



--- In analogue_systems@yahoogroups.com, Bryan Lowe <kingfm@y...> 
wrote:
> That is great.  Thanks.    I will experiment with that after 
work.   
>  
> I have a small inheritance coming my way some day, enough to 
possibly buy an Ondes Martenot called L'ondea, or something like 
that.... but... it could be that a path like this could make as much 
sense.
>  
> Ideally, the FC keyboard would also have the vibrato effect 
capability and more octaves.  If AS ever wants to build one I would 
gladly test it!
>  
> My ultimate goal is to play Three Small Liturgies by Messiaen some 
day. I htink I posted an audio clip of that pieve in an earlier 
post.  I have the music and am working on it.

>  
> Now.. back to work, those news like this is a lot more fun!
> 
> 		
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I AM pretty new to this stuff!  I am comfortable with computers... but synth is all new to me.  Right now I don't have a good sound card really, or any software for the purpose of music.   But this sounds like a good idea.  Someday!

heathblair <heathcliff@hblair.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:Sorry Bryan, I thought that you were new to synths and computer 
stuff. 

		
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