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Re: [bc2000] Re: BCR2000 receiving, not sending...

2008-04-23 by Martin Klang

Uh oh, now my BCR has started doing the same thing over MIDI cables.
After a little while of working fine, it stops sending messages, but  
still receives feedback.
I'm going to try resetting the firmware or something. I wish I hadn't  
bought it online...

/m

On 20 Apr 2008, at 11:58, Mark van den Berg wrote:

> --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, Martin Klang <mars@...> wrote:
>> my BCR2000 seems to have developed a problem. When I plug it in, by
>> USB, everything generally works fine for a few seconds.
>> Then the unit no longer sends any output when I turn the knobs /
>> press buttons. If I have it connected to e.g. Ableton Live, it still
>> receives feedback as usual as can be seem on the leds updating.
>>
>> I've tried replacing the cord, I've tried different host apps and
>> MIDI settings, different USB routing. I thought it was down to my
>> old, dying powerbook loosing its hearing, I mean USB connections.
>> But no, I've got a brand new macbook and it does the same thing.
>>
>> So I guess the USB connection is pretty much skrewed, somehow. Bad
>> soldering? I might just have to get ye olde iron out. My question is:
>> has anyone else seen this behaviour? Did you find a solution?
>
> I've had the same problem from the moment I bought my BCR 12 months  
> ago:
>
> For about 4 months I thought it was due to a messed-up driver
> installation under Windows: the standard "USB Audio" versus the
> Behringer-supplied 1.1.1.0, 1.1.1.1 and 1.2.1.3; you know the type of
> problem...
>
> What often happened was this:
> I started my own BC Manager (which I was developing), then the BCR
> would stop sending data after about a minute. Then I exited BC
> Manager, and when I restarted it, BC Manager immediately reported
> "Undefined external error".
> (The source of this error message was the Windows MMSystem MIDI layer,
> responding to BC Manager's attempt at connecting to the BCR's
> USB-based MIDI device; I've noticed that other software (Sonar, Reason
> etc.) may or may not produce similar messages.)
> What I then often did was reinstall the USB driver (I can't remember
> if this procedure involved leaving the BCR switched on, or re-powering
> it): then the USB connection would often work correctly for the rest
> of the day.
> So you can understand why all those months I thought that the USB
> driver was the cause.
>
> However, 8 months ago I bought a BCF, and over the next few months I
> slowly realized that the BCF NEVER had this problem. Finally I spent
> at least a full week trying everything I could (roughly the same list
> you've mentioned). In the end I came to the same conclusion as you:
> the USB controller on my BCR is defective, and has been since I  
> bought it.
>
> rpcfender wrote:
>> I bought a BCF a little while ago and it worked fine on the MIDI  
>> ports.
>> I went to use it through the USB and it would send but not receive.
>
> So the reverse of Martin's and my problem on the BCR ?!
> Very intriguing.
>
>> I am beginning to wonder about some common problem as so many people
>> are having trouble. We have had quite a few failures in the last few
>> months mentioned in the group.
>>
>> The BCR is going really well. So who knows what is wrong .
>
> I'm planning on going back to the shop with my BCR (I still have about
> 11 monhts of warranty), once I can find the time to do so, hopefully
> within about a month. I'll let you all know what comes out of this.
>
> Mark.
>

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