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Re: damn I hate my bcr - it barely works. Any clues?

2008-02-01 by rpcfender

Hi Angstrom


> When I try to use my BCR I have about a 1 in 3 chance of it actually
> sending some midi, most likely it will fail to send anything at all.
> It usually requires a hard restart of the BCR to get anything more out
> of it, which again - will only last a minute or two.

We are starting to get a few of these problems.  Behringer's quality
control is usually pretty good.

> I have the most up to date Behringer Midi driver and the BCR is
> connected to my PC via USB.
> A typical situation would be this:
> 1: I turn on the BCR
> 2: I open MidiOX and take a look at the incoming data while I turn a
dial
> the data is all fine
> 3: I wait ten seconds (or more) and try it again,
> 4: two out of three times this results in... nothing ! The controler
> dies a silent death and nothing will coax a single bit out of it.
>
> If I restart MidiOX, or 'release midi' and then open the BCR port
> again  it reports "BCR[1]: Unidentified External Error"
>
> This is roughly the same issue I get when trying to use the unit with
> a DAW. I use Ableton Live and in that case Ableton's midi page simply
> displays the port name in red text, indicating deadness.

So, as it warms up the problem starts?

> I was suprised to see no posts on this subject - so it must be only my
> setup.  I've tried a lot of things over the last 3 months of owning
> this thing, including setting my USB power to 'never turn off' which I
> read somewhere was a possible solution.
>
You shouldn't need any of this. My BCR has been going like  rock for 18
months

> does anyone have any clues?
> I just tried flashing the BIOS, although I'm reasonably sure it is up
> to date. Of course, as the BIOS is updated via USB it fails horribly
> halfway through and after giving me a spine chilling message about how
> I have crippled my BCR the BCRUPDATE.exe freezes and must be
terminated.

Have you trashed the flash ?
Does it startup now?
If it doesn't you will need to open it up and reprogram the flash with a
programmer.

What I would do... (possibly stuff you have already tried, but...)

Try another USB cable from a bidirectional unit  you know works (e.g.
modern printer that shows ink levels)
Try your BCR USB cable on the device so we can really rule it out.

Still not OK
Put the BCR into stand alone mode (Hold 'exit',  press 'store' turn knob
top left until the display shows S-1)
Use a Midi interface and MidiOx to check if it works via the Midi port
(make sure the Midi cables are OK).

Fixed, then it is a USB problem -> Software - completely remove the
driver (PC or Mac?) then re-install it not just overwrite it.

Not fixed, then it is not just the USB
Possibly corrupted Flash. Reload the flash using Midi in S-1 mode.

There is a mode "Learn" & "Store" while powering up. Shows 'LOAd" on the
display.
Does anyone know how to use this?

Still not OK
Back to the store for a warranty claim.

Out of warranty.
Open it and look for 'not so good solder joints' around the usb
connector on the CPU board
As the unit warms the joint could be expanding and breaking contact.
These problems will pass inspection and only show up when purchased.

Break the hot glue an push the flash chip into the socket.

Let me know how you get on

Royce

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