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LOAD message

LOAD message

2008-04-16 by thainmlh

Hi all,

I'm getting the "LOAD" message when I power up my BCR2000 (without 
holding down the two keys.)

Using MIDI-OX, I seem to be able to push the software up... I see the 
display count from 2 to 17.

Once it reaches 17 and MIDI-OX finished the load, the BCR2000 just 
sits there.

So, I re-cycle the power...I get the load message again... :-(


Anyone know what is supposed to happen after the load is complete? 
Does it just sit there until you recycle the power?

The Behringer tech was nice, but he has never seen this situation 
before.

Does anyone have any ideas here? Does reloading the software also 
reload the bootstrap loader for this thing?

any insight would be great.

Mike H
http://www.ombient.com

Re: [bc2000] LOAD message

2008-04-16 by Karl Lurman

Hmmm are you uploading the os/firmware via midi or USB?

Karl
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On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 4:16 AM, thainmlh <mike.hunter@...> wrote:
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> Hi all,
>
>  I'm getting the "LOAD" message when I power up my BCR2000 (without
>  holding down the two keys.)
>
>  Using MIDI-OX, I seem to be able to push the software up... I see the
>  display count from 2 to 17.
>
>  Once it reaches 17 and MIDI-OX finished the load, the BCR2000 just
>  sits there.
>
>  So, I re-cycle the power...I get the load message again... :-(
>
>  Anyone know what is supposed to happen after the load is complete?
>  Does it just sit there until you recycle the power?
>
>  The Behringer tech was nice, but he has never seen this situation
>  before.
>
>  Does anyone have any ideas here? Does reloading the software also
>  reload the bootstrap loader for this thing?
>
>  any insight would be great.
>
>  Mike H
>  http://www.ombient.com
>
>

Re: LOAD message

2008-04-20 by Mark van den Berg

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "thainmlh" <mike.hunter@...> wrote:
> I'm getting the "LOAD" message when I power up my BCR2000 (without 
> holding down the two keys.)

At first I didn't understand which two keys you were referring to, so
I tried all combinations (on the righthand side): I found that holding
the STORE and LEARN buttons indeed leads to "LOAd" in the display.
However, I couldn't find this described in any documentation; I may
have missed it, but how did you know about this?

> Using MIDI-OX, I seem to be able to push the software up... I see the 
> display count from 2 to 17.
> 
> Once it reaches 17 and MIDI-OX finished the load, the BCR2000 just 
> sits there.
> 
> So, I re-cycle the power...I get the load message again... :-(
> 
> Anyone know what is supposed to happen after the load is complete? 
> Does it just sit there until you recycle the power?

Yes.

> Does reloading the software also 
> reload the bootstrap loader for this thing?

No: the bootloader always stays the same: it's in areas "0" and "1" in
the numbering shown on the BCR's display while uploading ("2" to "17").

Your problem is very strange. I've experimented a bit uploading
firmware to my BCR. Once I sent only part of the firmware; as a
result, the BCR's display said "noOS" when I recycled the power (and
didn't work in any way), so that's what you get when the downloadable
part of the firmware is messed up. I had to power up in LOAd mode
again and upload the whole firmware, then things were right again.

However, since you aren't getting "noOS" but "LOAd", my guess is that
there is something fundamentally wrong with the hardware of your BCR.
Either for some reason the bootloader thinks that STORE and LEARN have
been pressed at power-on (due to a wiring problem?), or your flash
memory is defective; the latter seems more likely (but who am I).

In my understanding (but Royce or Steve may correct me) the bootloader
plus ORIGINAL firmware are on a NON-flashable ROM chip, and any
DOWNLOADED firmware is put on a flashable chip (probably where your
preset settings etc. are stored as well). I have no idea what is
actually wrong, but in any case I'm pretty certain that you should
have your BCR repaired or replaced by Behringer (hopefully within the
warranty period).

By the way, I've discovered that my own BC Manager's "Send firmware"
facility doesn't work if the BC is in bootloader mode, so you
shouldn't try this. (I've corrected the problem now - the next version
of BC Manager will work fine in this respect.)

Mark.

Re: LOAD message

2008-04-24 by thainmlh

KI am using MIDI. Since I am stuck with the LOAD message, it is the 
only thing I can do.

The software push seems to work. I see the display on the BCR2000 
count slowly from 1 to 17. I have all the MIDI-OX parameters set 
correctly (I've even tried super slow settings to ensure no issues 
there.)

After MIDI-OX is complete, the display continues to read 17. I 
assumed, at this point, that a reboot is required.

So when I do reboot, it comes up with the LOAD message again.

I wonder if the bootstrap loader is screwy...

Any help here Karl would be welcome :-) (I ended up buying another 
new BCR2000 in the meantime.)

Mike Hunter
http://www.ombient.com




--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Karl Lurman" <karl.lurman@...> wrote:
>
> Hmmm are you uploading the os/firmware via midi or USB?
> 
> Karl
> 
> On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 4:16 AM, thainmlh <mike.hunter@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> >  I'm getting the "LOAD" message when I power up my BCR2000 
(without
> >  holding down the two keys.)
> >
> >  Using MIDI-OX, I seem to be able to push the software up... I 
see the
> >  display count from 2 to 17.
> >
> >  Once it reaches 17 and MIDI-OX finished the load, the BCR2000 
just
> >  sits there.
> >
> >  So, I re-cycle the power...I get the load message again... :-(
> >
> >  Anyone know what is supposed to happen after the load is 
complete?
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> >  Does it just sit there until you recycle the power?
> >
> >  The Behringer tech was nice, but he has never seen this situation
> >  before.
> >
> >  Does anyone have any ideas here? Does reloading the software also
> >  reload the bootstrap loader for this thing?
> >
> >  any insight would be great.
> >
> >  Mike H
> >  http://www.ombient.com
> >
> >
>

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