Bc2000 (for the BCF2000 & BCR2000)

Hi ppl, just wondering If my Bcf could drive sound parameters (via a
patchbay) of my Roland Mks-80 and Waldorf Microwave (v.2.00)? 
Thank you

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "cristoforcolombo" <sharm.band@...> wrote:
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> Hi ppl, just wondering If my Bcf could drive sound parameters (via a
> patchbay) of my Roland Mks-80 and Waldorf Microwave (v.2.00)? 
> Thank you
>
Maybe is a silly-too-simple to answer question?

Hi 
> > Hi ppl, just wondering If my Bcf could drive sound parameters (via a
> > patchbay) of my Roland Mks-80 and Waldorf Microwave (v.2.00)? 

Probably. What do you want to control?
You can use Continuous Controller (CC) messages or sysex for most
parameters on most hardware synths.
You should get the manuals that have the sysex Midi details (usually
in the back of the Roland manuals)
Waldorf ?
There is this page 
http://www.sysexdb.com/synth_detail.asp?dv=32
for some of the sysex.
Check out the user manual and post again with more details of what you
want to do.

All the best
Royce

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "rpcfender" <rpcfender@...> wrote:
>
> Hi 
> > > Hi ppl, just wondering If my Bcf could drive sound parameters (via a
> > > patchbay) of my Roland Mks-80 and Waldorf Microwave (v.2.00)? 
> 
> Probably. What do you want to control?
> You can use Continuous Controller (CC) messages or sysex for most
> parameters on most hardware synths.
> You should get the manuals that have the sysex Midi details (usually
> in the back of the Roland manuals)
> Waldorf ?
> There is this page 
> http://www.sysexdb.com/synth_detail.asp?dv=32
> for some of the sysex.
> Check out the user manual and post again with more details of what you
> want to do.
> 
> All the best
> Royce
>
Hi Royce, thanks for your answer. I would edit these beasts, as a
software editors do. Adsr, cutoff, resonance (Mks-80) and all digital
stuff with Microwave (edit waves etc.).
Lu.

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "rpcfender" <rpcfender@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Lu
> 
> > Hi Royce, thanks for your answer. I would edit these beasts, as a
> > software editors do. Adsr, cutoff, resonance (Mks-80) and all digital
> > stuff with Microwave (edit waves etc.).
> 
> Start work on the MKS-80
> I guess you are trying to build a MGP-80 with the BC
> I hope you have a PC or are able to run a Windows program on the Mac
> because you can't do this sort of BC programming from the front panel of
> either the BCR2000 or the BCF2000
> 
> Work out the layout you want on the BC then get Mark's editor (for PC)
> from the files section
> 
> You can get the MKS-80 manual from here
> http://www.analoghell.com/studio/index.cfm?fuse=downloads&id=58
> <http://www.analoghell.com/studio/index.cfm?fuse=downloads&id=58>
> At the back is a sysex section.
> 
> If this is a bit hard to follow, use a midi monitor program like MidiOx
> (for PC) and change the parameters you are interested in by using the
> MKS-80's front panel.
> The MKS-80 should put our the sysex message you need to duplicate in
> your preset as you change the value from the front panel.
> Try to work out the sysex spec from what the machine is putting out.
> In Mark's editor look at the section called "Custom Output" on the
> control editor dialog
> 
> Hope this helps
> 
> Royce
>
Thanks Royce. Reading your answer I think that the real issue will be
programming Bcf with Microwave I. I have all sysex parameters for this
machine but it doesn't output any sysex messages at all. If I change a
parameter Bcf simply doesn't react. I'm not a midi newbie so I think
every cable is connected well. Maybe I'm doing something wrong in the
Bcf mode? Which one to use? Usb 1-2-3-4 or S (midi) mode 1-2-3-4? 
Thanks

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "rpcfender" <rpcfender@...> wrote:
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> 
> > Thanks Royce. Reading your answer I think that the real issue will be
> > programming Bcf with Microwave I. I have all sysex parameters for this
> > machine but it doesn't output any sysex messages at all. If I change a
> > parameter Bcf simply doesn't react. I'm not a midi newbie so I think
> > every cable is connected well. Maybe I'm doing something wrong in the
> > Bcf mode? Which one to use? Usb 1-2-3-4 or S (midi) mode 1-2-3-4?
> 
> When you say that the BCF doesn't react, are you expecting the BCF
> faders etc to move with changes to the synth ie when you change patches?
> 
> The BC's only react to CC messages they receive and you need to have
> used easypar with CC  in the preset to get it working.
>
The Bcf should say "Good" or "Bad" at each message input if connected
to a sysex source (midi expander lije the Microwave). Am I wrong?

> > The BC's only react to CC messages they receive and you need to have
> > used easypar with CC  in the preset to get it working.
> >
> The Bcf should say "Good" or "Bad" at each message input if connected
> to a sysex source (midi expander lije the Microwave). Am I wrong?

When you are in 'Learn' mode the next message the BC receives is either
something it can deal with and assign to a control CC, sysex etc and it
displays 'Good' otherwise "Bad' but as far as I know this is only in
Learn mode.
In normal operation if it receives a midi message it looks at all the
controls set with easypar and and it tries to find a match to the Midi
message. If it can it sets the value of those controls to the input Midi
message value.
You cannot set a sysex message with easypar so it would just ignore the
message.

Sorry

Royce

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "rpcfender" <rpcfender@...> wrote:
>
> 
> > > The BC's only react to CC messages they receive and you need to have
> > > used easypar with CC  in the preset to get it working.
> > >
> > The Bcf should say "Good" or "Bad" at each message input if connected
> > to a sysex source (midi expander lije the Microwave). Am I wrong?
> 
> When you are in 'Learn' mode the next message the BC receives is either
> something it can deal with and assign to a control CC, sysex etc and it
> displays 'Good' otherwise "Bad' but as far as I know this is only in
> Learn mode.
> In normal operation if it receives a midi message it looks at all the
> controls set with easypar and and it tries to find a match to the Midi
> message. If it can it sets the value of those controls to the input Midi
> message value.
> You cannot set a sysex message with easypar so it would just ignore the
> message.
> 
> Sorry
> 
> Royce
>
Royce, I made it. With the learn function and Sounddiver editor now I
can control most parameters iof a Matrix 1000, and Yamaha Tx7. No
success with my Microwave...
More to come...

Well done.

There is a preset for the DX7 which will work on a TX7 in the files
section.

> Royce, I made it. With the learn function and Sounddiver editor now I
> can control most parameters iof a Matrix 1000, and Yamaha Tx7. No
> success with my Microwave...
> More to come...
>

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "rpcfender" <rpcfender@...> wrote:
>
> Well done.
> 
> There is a preset for the DX7 which will work on a TX7 in the files
> section.
> 
> > Royce, I made it. With the learn function and Sounddiver editor now I
> > can control most parameters iof a Matrix 1000, and Yamaha Tx7. No
> > success with my Microwave...
> > More to come...
> >
>

Hi,
is there anybody out there who is successfully editing the
Microwave I with the BCR2000?

I have started mith a MKS80. No prob at all. The MKS sends
out Data if u change the parameter on the Front Panel.
Just go in Learn Mode at the BCR2000 an record it.
But the Microwave doesn't send Data if u change parameter
at the front panel. U can see it at the LED of the BCR2000.
No signal.
If u program one encoder manual with CC Data and send it to
the Microwave... nothing happend.
Midi Chanel an Connections are OK, I am no newbie in connecting.
But if u change from CC Data to Pitch bend or Program Change the
Microwave Midi LED lits and it will be done. Only CC Data is
being ignored.Can someone help me?

I can't imagine that there no way it will work.

Greets Christian

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "cristoforcolombo" <sharm.band@...> wrote:
>
> Hi ppl, just wondering If my Bcf could drive sound parameters (via a
> patchbay) of my Roland Mks-80 and Waldorf Microwave (v.2.00)? 
> Thank you
>


Just wondering if anyone was successful in controlling their Waldorf Microwave 1 (with v. 2.00 software) using a BC yet.  I have a BCR2000 and have been trying to get this working for a long time now.

I have the sysex documentation from Waldorf's website, but am a bit lost on how to proceed.  

Thanks,

-Alex

I'm working on an MKS-70 template. The programming is pretty  
straightforward using the script editor, the hard part is deciding  
what controls to use for the VCOs, EGs etc. You run out of real estate  
pretty fast.

The guys on this board are very helpful.

Stublito

Quoting teknosmoker <teknosmoker@...>:

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> --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "cristoforcolombo" <sharm.band@...> wrote:
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>> Hi ppl, just wondering If my Bcf could drive sound parameters (via a
>> patchbay) of my Roland Mks-80 and Waldorf Microwave (v.2.00)?
>> Thank you
>>
>
>
> Just wondering if anyone was successful in controlling their Waldorf  
>  Microwave 1 (with v. 2.00 software) using a BC yet.  I have a   
> BCR2000 and have been trying to get this working for a long time now.
>
> I have the sysex documentation from Waldorf's website, but am a bit   
> lost on how to proceed.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Alex
>
>
>
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Thanks for the reply Stublito.  

Yes, there are a LOT of parameters that can be assigned in the Microwave as well.  I probably won't need to map them all (maybe 2-3 BCR pages...).

BTW - What script editor are you referring to?

-Alex 

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, ogusa@... wrote:

>
> I'm working on an MKS-70 template. The programming is pretty  
> straightforward using the script editor, the hard part is deciding  
> what controls to use for the VCOs, EGs etc. You run out of real estate  
> pretty fast.
> 
> The guys on this board are very helpful.
> 
> Stublito
> 
> Quoting teknosmoker <teknosmoker@...>:
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> >
> > --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "cristoforcolombo" <sharm.band@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi ppl, just wondering If my Bcf could drive sound parameters (via a
> >> patchbay) of my Roland Mks-80 and Waldorf Microwave (v.2.00)?
> >> Thank you
> >>
> >
> >
> > Just wondering if anyone was successful in controlling their Waldorf  
> >  Microwave 1 (with v. 2.00 software) using a BC yet.  I have a   
> > BCR2000 and have been trying to get this working for a long time now.
> >
> > I have the sysex documentation from Waldorf's website, but am a bit   
> > lost on how to proceed.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > -Alex
> >
> >
> >
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> > Yahoo! Groups Links
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