Bc2000 (for the BCF2000 & BCR2000)

Hi everyone,

I'm new to BCMan and I'm hoping someone from the group can help.  I'm running BCMan 1.5.1 on WindowsXP.  I'm in the General tab page within the encoder edit dialog box and within the General tab page there are a few knob controls, and I'm finding that editing the value with the mouse isn't very accurate.  I've watched Kip's getting started videos and in the second video he gives a tip that one can press control+enter and a dialog box will come up and you can type in the value via a text edit control.

Well, I have the knob control selected (the dotted box appears around the control) but when I hit control+enter on my keyboard nothing happens.  Any suggestions?


Thanks,

Jeff

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, Jeff B <jeffbee42@...> wrote:
> I'm new to BCMan and I'm hoping someone from the group can help. 
I'm running BCMan 1.5.1 on WindowsXP.  I'm in the General tab page
within the encoder edit dialog box and within the General tab page
there are a few knob controls, and I'm finding that editing the value
with the mouse isn't very accurate.  I've watched Kip's getting
started videos and in the second video he gives a tip that one can
press control+enter and a dialog box will come up and you can type in
the value via a text edit control.
> 
> Well, I have the knob control selected (the dotted box appears
around the control) but when I hit control+enter on my keyboard
nothing happens.  Any suggestions?

Yes: press ALT+Enter (so not CTRL+Enter)! This is mentioned in BC
Manager 1.5.1's manual, section 19; this section also mentions several
other key combinations that allow you to change the value of a knob
without using the mouse.

By the way: the mouse is more accurate if you widen the circle of
movement.

However, I agree that these knobs with a range of 0-16383 are rather
cumbersome for use with the mouse. I've recently had a (private)
discussion with someone who brought up the same point. To summarize my
answer: basically these knobs are not ideal, but replacing them with
text edit boxes (with "spin" up/down arrows) wouldn't be ideal either,
for several reasons: e.g. a text edit box doesn't show you the full
range, and it only allows you to increment/decrement the value by one
(apart from typing it of course). So I think the current setup is
reasonable, combining the "best of both worlds" - provided you know
how to access the dialog box, of course...

Mark.

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Mark van den Berg" <markwinvdb@...> wrote:
>
> --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, Jeff B <jeffbee42@> wrote:
> > I'm new to BCMan and I'm hoping someone from the group can help. 
> I'm running BCMan 1.5.1 on WindowsXP.  I'm in the General tab page
> within the encoder edit dialog box and within the General tab page
> there are a few knob controls, and I'm finding that editing the value
> with the mouse isn't very accurate.  I've watched Kip's getting
> started videos and in the second video he gives a tip that one can
> press control+enter and a dialog box will come up and you can type in
> the value via a text edit control.
> > 
> > Well, I have the knob control selected (the dotted box appears
> around the control) but when I hit control+enter on my keyboard
> nothing happens.  Any suggestions?
> 
> Yes: press ALT+Enter (so not CTRL+Enter)! This is mentioned in BC

Sorry!  Should I just delete those movies, seems like to many errors
on my part?

> Manager 1.5.1's manual, section 19; this section also mentions several
> other key combinations that allow you to change the value of a knob
> without using the mouse.
> 
> By the way: the mouse is more accurate if you widen the circle of
> movement.
> 
> However, I agree that these knobs with a range of 0-16383 are rather
> cumbersome for use with the mouse. I've recently had a (private)
> discussion with someone who brought up the same point. To summarize my
> answer: basically these knobs are not ideal, but replacing them with
> text edit boxes (with "spin" up/down arrows) wouldn't be ideal either,
> for several reasons: e.g. a text edit box doesn't show you the full
> range, and it only allows you to increment/decrement the value by one
> (apart from typing it of course). So I think the current setup is
> reasonable, combining the "best of both worlds" - provided you know
> how to access the dialog box, of course...

I think the current setup is best as well.

Kip

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "k5kip_1999" <k5kip_1999@...> wrote:
>> However, I agree that these knobs with a range of 0-16383 are rather
>> cumbersome for use with the mouse. I've recently had a (private)
>> discussion with someone who brought up the same point. To summarize my
>> answer: basically these knobs are not ideal, but replacing them with
>> text edit boxes (with "spin" up/down arrows) wouldn't be ideal either,
>> for several reasons: e.g. a text edit box doesn't show you the full
>> range, and it only allows you to increment/decrement the value by one
>> (apart from typing it of course). So I think the current setup is
>> reasonable, combining the "best of both worlds" - provided you know
>> how to access the dialog box, of course...
> 
> I think the current setup is best as well.

Thanks for agreeing with me, Kip!

Actually, one thing that might work would be to narrow the range of
the "0-16383" knobs to "0-127" unless the wide range is actually valid
(e.g. if "Mode" has been set to a 14-bit value) and/or if the user
specifically REQUESTS the wide range via an additional "14-bit range"
checkbox or so. But again, in a sense that would also complicate
things, so I don't know... It's just one of those headache-causing
user-interface dilemmas...

Mark.