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Attach BCR2000 to VST without MIDI Learn

Attach BCR2000 to VST without MIDI Learn

2011-04-16 by mollekula

Hello people, its been a long time since i wanted to ask this question. As you know some plugins have the ability to attach their controls to Midi Controller rotaries and buttons (BCR2000 in my case) when right clicking on a rotary of a plugin (Midi Learn appears on it)and turning a knob on BCR. There are many interesting plugins out there without the MIDI Learn thingy. Is it possible to attach BCR2000 knobs to these plugins? if yes how should i do this? your help would be invaluable for me. thank you in advance.

Re: [bc2000] Attach BCR2000 to VST without MIDI Learn

2011-04-16 by David Doubek

In that case you need to know the midi implementation of that plugin and program the BCR accordingly (look for cc documentation of that plugin). You would need to make a preset specifically for it.

David
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2011/4/16 mollekula <mollekula@...>

Hello people, its been a long time since i wanted to ask this question. As you know some plugins have the ability to attach their controls to Midi Controller rotaries and buttons (BCR2000 in my case) when right clicking on a rotary of a plugin (Midi Learn appears on it)and turning a knob on BCR. There are many interesting plugins out there without the MIDI Learn thingy. Is it possible to attach BCR2000 knobs to these plugins? if yes how should i do this? your help would be invaluable for me. thank you in advance.


Re: Attach BCR2000 to VST without MIDI Learn

2011-04-16 by sghookings@tiscali.co.uk

You may be lucky and choose some kit that others have made presets for
Else if your kit/vst doesn't tell you the cc's or NRPNs use midiox et al to snoop on what each vst sends (assuming it can route it's output to a midi channel) to find the values.

Good luck, and hope you don't need negative NRPNs!

Regards
Steve H
--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, David Doubek <david.doubek@...> wrote:
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> In that case you need to know the midi implementation of that plugin and
> program the BCR accordingly (look for cc documentation of that plugin). You
> would need to make a preset specifically for it.
> 
> David
> 
> 2011/4/16 mollekula <mollekula@...>
> 
> >
> >
> > Hello people, its been a long time since i wanted to ask this question. As
> > you know some plugins have the ability to attach their controls to Midi
> > Controller rotaries and buttons (BCR2000 in my case) when right clicking on
> > a rotary of a plugin (Midi Learn appears on it)and turning a knob on BCR.
> > There are many interesting plugins out there without the MIDI Learn thingy.
> > Is it possible to attach BCR2000 knobs to these plugins? if yes how should i
> > do this? your help would be invaluable for me. thank you in advance.
> >
> >  
> >
>

Re: Attach BCR2000 to VST without MIDI Learn

2011-04-16 by Mollekula

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, David Doubek <david.doubek@...> wrote:
>
> In that case you need to know the midi implementation of that plugin and
> program the BCR accordingly (look for cc documentation of that plugin). You
> would need to make a preset specifically for it.
> 
> David
> 
> 2011/4/16 mollekula <mollekula@...>
> 
> >
> >
Hi Gave, thank you for the reply. You mean entering the cc values of the plugin to BC manager and loading them to BCR2000? I've read the manual of the plugin, unfortunately no "cc" info :(

Re: Attach BCR2000 to VST without MIDI Learn

2011-04-16 by Mollekula

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, sghookings@... wrote:
>
> 
> You may be lucky and choose some kit that others have made presets for
> Else if your kit/vst doesn't tell you the cc's or NRPNs use midiox et al to snoop on what each vst sends (assuming it can route it's output to a midi channel) to find the values.
> 
> Good luck, and hope you don't need negative NRPNs!
> 
> Regards
> Steve H
Hi Steve, I appreciate your help. In case I have to use Midiox, do i have to connect BCR2000 with a MIDI cable in order to get what each vst sends? im asking that because for the time being i have it connected via USB. Also, is there any difference between USB and MIDI cable connection (for VST(i) controlling)? Sorry if my questions sound stupid but im a newbie with this MIDI stuff. After reading the BCR manual I connected it with USB because it says that USB-1 function is enough to control VST in a DAW. It works with some plugins that ive tried so i left it this way. Maybe connecting it with MIDI is better?

Re: [bc2000] Re: Attach BCR2000 to VST without MIDI Learn

2011-04-16 by Stephen Hookings

USB should be fine. Sometimes u have to get creative and use midi yoke to "man in the middle" to see stuff. Ie out into midi yoke in . Connect midi yoke out to the midi out and watch what flows down the midi ox loop

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On 16 Apr 2011, at 12:23, "Mollekula" <mollekula@...> wrote:

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> --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, sghookings@... wrote:
> >
> > 
> > You may be lucky and choose some kit that others have made presets for
> > Else if your kit/vst doesn't tell you the cc's or NRPNs use midiox et al to snoop on what each vst sends (assuming it can route it's output to a midi channel) to find the values.
> > 
> > Good luck, and hope you don't need negative NRPNs!
> > 
> > Regards
> > Steve H
> Hi Steve, I appreciate your help. In case I have to use Midiox, do i have to connect BCR2000 with a MIDI cable in order to get what each vst sends? im asking that because for the time being i have it connected via USB. Also, is there any difference between USB and MIDI cable connection (for VST(i) controlling)? Sorry if my questions sound stupid but im a newbie with this MIDI stuff. After reading the BCR manual I connected it with USB because it says that USB-1 function is enough to control VST in a DAW. It works with some plugins that ive tried so i left it this way. Maybe connecting it with MIDI is better? 
> 
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