Bc2000 (for the BCF2000 & BCR2000)

Hi,
I have a question, today I wanted to load a single, previously made template, (got new BCR recently) but I didn't dare, because the size looked too big. 206kb for a sigle file?..
If I make a new template I always save single file, never everything, (backup).
Next to it I see a template of 23kb I made yesterday...?
I am hesitating to load it because I have several templates in progress and I don't want to over-write everything. (Happened before)
What is a size of a single template in BCManager?
TIA

The Miniak one I made was 6 reasonable populated presets, each sending NRPNs.

This is 80-90k, so about 15k per preset.

Of course, if you have a lot of long sysex sentences I can image it would be larger.

I guess you could check out other presets in the files section and see what size they are? If there is a readme for each you may be able to make a good estimate of average size.

Regards

Steve H

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "s_y_nagual" <s_y_nagual@...> wrote:

>
> Hi,
> I have a question, today I wanted to load a single, previously made template, (got new BCR recently) but I didn't dare, because the size looked too big. 206kb for a sigle file?..
> If I make a new template I always save single file, never everything, (backup).
> Next to it I see a template of 23kb I made yesterday...?
> I am hesitating to load it because I have several templates in progress and I don't want to over-write everything. (Happened before)
> What is a size of a single template in BCManager?
> TIA
>

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "s_y_nagual" <s_y_nagual@...> wrote:
> I have a question, today I wanted to load a single, previously made template, (got new BCR recently) but I didn't dare, because the size looked too big. 206kb for a sigle file?..
> If I make a new template I always save single file, never everything, (backup).
> Next to it I see a template of 23kb I made yesterday...?
> I am hesitating to load it because I have several templates in progress and I don't want to over-write everything. (Happened before)

One way to find out exactly what's inside a syx file containing BCF/BCR2000 presets is to convert the syx file to a txt file.
In BC Manager you can do this from the main window: File -> Convert => Syx to txt/bc2.
Then you can study the txt file in any text editor (Notepad etc.).

Another safe method is to create a new BCR "context" in BC Manager's "B-Controls" window (via B-Control -> New BCR2000), then import the syx file in that context: then you can't do any harm to either your BCR itself (it isn't linked to that particular "context") or any file (as long as you don't explicitly save the context to an existing file, of course).

If you are unsure how to work with BCR presets in BC Manager in general, try the BC Manager manual, section 24 (FAQ); e.g. question 45.

Hope this helps,
Mark.

Thanks Mark and Steve, I  should have check that, because I actually have some converted MIDI templates I made for KLEE...
Thank you both
Best, Karel


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 From: Mark v.d. Berg <markwinvdb@hetnet.nl>
To: bc2000@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, 29 August 2012, 7:01
Subject: [bc2000] Re: Saved Template midi files
 

  
--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "s_y_nagual" <s_y_nagual@...> wrote:
> I have a question, today I wanted to load a single, previously made template, (got new BCR recently) but I didn't dare, because the size looked too big. 206kb for a sigle file?..
> If I make a new template I always save single file, never everything, (backup).
> Next to it I see a template of 23kb I made yesterday...?
> I am hesitating to load it because I have several templates in progress and I don't want to over-write everything. (Happened before)

One way to find out exactly what's inside a syx file containing BCF/BCR2000 presets is to convert the syx file to a txt file.
In BC Manager you can do this from the main window: File -> Convert => Syx to txt/bc2.
Then you can study the txt file in any text editor (Notepad etc.).

Another safe method is to create a new BCR "context" in BC Manager's "B-Controls" window (via B-Control -> New BCR2000), then import the syx file in that context: then you can't do any harm to either your BCR itself (it isn't linked to that particular "context") or any file (as long as you don't explicitly save the context to an existing file, of course).

If you are unsure how to work with BCR presets in BC Manager in general, try the BC Manager manual, section 24 (FAQ); e.g. question 45.

Hope this helps,
Mark.