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trying a programme the Toggle On

trying a programme the Toggle On

2015-02-02 by spaman22@...

After battling with my BCF for over a year I discovered that it was defective, it wasn't me!! Anyway my newbie question is this. I am trying to programme a switch to toggle on and then the off function on the second press. I am using ableton and normaly can figure this out but no luck yet. the CC parameter makes sense but I am having a challenge selecting the appropriate Value number for the on and off. sorry to sound stupid. any help would be awesome.thankyou so much



Re: trying a programme the Toggle On

2015-02-02 by rpcfender@...

If you are setting it from the BCF encoder 6 set the ToggleOn ToggleOff and Increment functions.

You need to turn the Toggle property on so set it to ToggleOn.

Hope this helps.
Royce

RE: [bc2000] Re: trying a programme the Toggle On

2015-02-06 by Richard Stephen Melhuish

Sorry for the delay. Thanks Royce for answering my question. I am still not quite “getting” the programming of the on off switch and it’s relation to the Value Settings.  I have my Transport “Play” set to CC value 0 and “stop” to cc value 7. That is working fine but my confusion is in getting the Toggle on to work so that if I press play once, it plays, Press again and Transport stops. This would be useful with the footswitch. My confusion is how to set the CC (Parameter) and the two value settings, encoder 3 and 5.  btw my recording history goes back to 1969 recording in London on those Ampex Reel to Reels and everything in between, hee hee :)
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From: bc2000@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bc2000@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 3:23 PM
To: bc2000@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bc2000] Re: trying a programme the Toggle On

 

  

If you are setting it from the BCF encoder 6 set the ToggleOn ToggleOff and Increment functions.

 

You need to turn the Toggle property on so set it to ToggleOn.

 

Hope this helps.

Royce

Re: trying a programme the Toggle On

2015-02-06 by rpcfender@...

Hi Richard,
I started at the ABC in 1975 on Ampex and Studer recorders so you beat me by 6 years.
At least it wasn't the wire recorder sitting on the top floor of Broadcast house in Melbourne.

As you probably know, CC messages are comprised of 3 bytes of data
CC+channel
Type or CC id - eg Volume is CC 7
Value

So.. encoder number ...
1 = type set to CC (despite what Behringer says it stands for Continuous Controller)
2 = channel - 1 to 16 - it needs to match your transport control
3 = CC type - 0 to 127 - it needs to match your transport control
4 = On value = 0 = play
5 = Off value = 7 = stop
6 = Toggle On - press and release to start - press and release to stop
7 = increment value - not needed in you case
8 = Display On or Off

So your transport needs to have both its Play and Stop commands with the same Midi Channel and the same CC Type.

If you have a PC and a copy of MidiOx (free program) you can see the Midi messages coming in from the BC.

If MidiOx is set to display in Hex (right click on the Input screen to select Hex) you should see
for CC on channel 1 and type 16

B0 10 00
B0 10 07
B0 10 00
B0 10 07

B means CC and the following digit is the channel (0 = channel 1, 1 = channel 2 etc)



All the best
Royce

RE: [bc2000] Re: trying a programme the Toggle On

2015-02-08 by Richard Stephen Melhuish

Thankyou so much Royce. I am still working on this but you have inspired me to get to grips with this stuff!  I was, and am a little intimidated with the BC Manager etc but I am going to revisit it all. My interest is more on the recording rather than the producing but this Midi is addictive. I use Ableton and a BCF and BCR. My stuff lives here, mostly, if anyone is curious… :)

 

https://soundcloud.com/richardmelhuish

 

Again,thanks for helping a newbie!!
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From: bc2000@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bc2000@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 4:56 AM
To: bc2000@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bc2000] Re: trying a programme the Toggle On

 

  

Hi Richard,

I started at the ABC in 1975 on Ampex and Studer recorders so you beat me by 6 years.

At least it wasn't the wire recorder sitting on the top floor of Broadcast house in Melbourne.

 

As you probably know, CC messages are comprised of  3 bytes of data

CC+channel

Type or CC id - eg Volume is CC 7

Value

 

So.. encoder number ...

1 = type set to CC (despite what Behringer says it stands for Continuous Controller)

2 = channel - 1 to 16 - it needs to match your transport control

3 = CC type -  0 to 127 - it needs to match your transport control 

4 = On value  = 0 = play

5 = Off value  = 7 = stop

6 = Toggle On - press and release to start - press and release to stop

7 = increment value - not needed in you case

8 = Display On or Off

 

So your transport needs to have both its Play and Stop commands with the same Midi Channel and the same CC Type.

 

If you have a PC and a copy of MidiOx (free program) you can see the Midi messages coming in from the BC.

 

If MidiOx is set to display in Hex (right click on the Input screen to select Hex) you should see

for CC on channel 1 and type 16

 

B0 10 00

B0 10 07

B0 10 00

B0 10 07

 

B means CC and the following digit is the channel (0 = channel 1, 1 = channel 2 etc)

 

 

 

All the best

Royce

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