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Problems while editing my BCR2000

Problems while editing my BCR2000

2015-10-06 by lucaisard@...

Hello everybody,


I'm new here and this is my first post. I have problems with editing the BCR2000. I have a DX11 that i want to control with my BCR2000 that I have bought last week on the used market. I've downloaded BC manager and created a preset (Preset 1) with the SysEx section (I used the already registred "Yamaha 4 op synth FM voice"). I have transfered the preset to my BCR (I had the BCR's screen with the charging-sign). But when it has finished, I had Nothing in th BCR, I choose the LED's option while editing it in BC manager but after send it, no LEDs on any knobs and when I turn its, no value change on the screen. But when I edit it manually and choose the CC mode (or any kind of other type of message) the leds work well and the value changes.

-So first does the registred SysEx message "Yamaha 4 op FM synth voice" works on the DX11 ?

-I want to change some values that don't appear on the pre-registred values (like the Release or Brightness that we can change in the Quick Edit mode on the DX11. How could I find the right messages for these parameters ?

-What's wrong with the process for not having any LEDs or value in the preset ? (I have not mentioned it but there are no leds in all preset after sending the messages)

I have some others questions but I will ask it later, one thing at the time :)


Re: Problems while editing my BCR2000

2015-10-06 by lucaisard@...

Update 2:

IT WORKS !!

It's okay now. The problem was that I did not select "set standard resolution 96bit". Now it's okay.

Re: Problems while editing my BCR2000

2015-10-07 by rpcfender@...

Hi
glad you sorted out the problem.

As far as the 'Quick Edit' parameters I can only comment on the TQ5 4op synth.

There is not much of a Midi specification in the DX11 manual, but you can operate the Yamaha TQ5 buttons remotely from the BCR. Perhaps you can on the DX11 as well.

On the TQ5 there is EG, TONE, LFO, NAME and EFFECT in the EASY EDIT area selected by the buttons on the left hand side.

Once something is selected, (like EG - envelope generator) the screen fills with that page's parameters (EG has has Attack, Decay and Release and a Mode select) These can be changed by the buttons under the display.

So to increment using an encoder you would send out a select for the EG button a Sysex message for the Easy Edit button, then a +button message for the parameter. For decrementing you send the same thing but the -button instead.

A better way might be to use the top row of encoders and use their integrated push button to select the Easy Edit type and just use the forward and backward encoder function to pulse the particular TQ5 (DX11?) button.

I couldn't find a detailed Sysex spec on the web, so perhaps you might like to have a look at my BCR to TQ5 editor to see if it is also a BCR to DX11 editor.

BCR<=>TQ5 II
BCR<=>TQ5 II
Yamaha 4op Synth A Yamaha TQ5 synthesiser editor with or without a controller (Version 2) This is an expanded version of the BCR2000 to TQ-5 control...
View on www.bwalk.com.au
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I would love to know if it does anything on the DX11

All the best
Royce

Re: [bc2000] Problems while editing my BCR2000

2015-10-07 by Boniforti Flavio

Luca, is it *you*? :-)
Analog synths - Switzerland... you remember?
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2015-10-06 22:44 GMT+02:00 lucaisard@... [bc2000] <bc2000@yahoogroups.com>:

Hello everybody,


I'm new here and this is my first post. I have problems with editing the BCR2000. I have a DX11 that i want to control with my BCR2000 that I have bought last week on the used market. I've downloaded BC manager and created a preset (Preset 1) with the SysEx section (I used the already registred "Yamaha 4 op synth FM voice"). I have transfered the preset to my BCR (I had the BCR's screen with the charging-sign). But when it has finished, I had Nothing in th BCR, I choose the LED's option while editing it in BC manager but after send it, no LEDs on any knobs and when I turn its, no value change on the screen. But when I edit it manually and choose the CC mode (or any kind of other type of message) the leds work well and the value changes.

-So first does the registred SysEx message "Yamaha 4 op FM synth voice" works on the DX11 ?

-I want to change some values that don't appear on the pre-registred values (like the Release or Brightness that we can change in the Quick Edit mode on the DX11. How could I find the right messages for these parameters ?

-What's wrong with the process for not having any LEDs or value in the preset ? (I have not mentioned it but there are no leds in all preset after sending the messages)

I have some others questions but I will ask it later, one thing at the time :)



Re: [bc2000] Problems while editing my BCR2000

2015-10-07 by Boniforti Flavio

Interesting - the world is really a small place! :-)
My BCR2000 has ZAQuencer 1.03 on it but I was looking first of all for some replacement "push-encoders" (the first/upper row) and in second place for those nice wooden side-panels made to hold 2 BCR/F units...

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2015-10-07 21:53 GMT+02:00 lucaisard@... [bc2000] <bc2000@yahoogroups.com>:

Hi Flavio !! Good to see you there !


I'm new with BCR and struggled a lot these lasts days haha.


Re: Problems while editing my BCR2000

2015-10-07 by lucaisard@...

Hi,

Thanks for your answer. I didn't think about it. I was looking for sending the exact message for changing the Brghtness value (for example) but your idea is way more logical !
I will work in this way and tell you back how it's work for me.

Thanks again.

Re: [bc2000] Problems while editing my BCR2000

2015-10-07 by lucaisard@...

Yes it's a very small place haha !

Yes I remember that you have told me that ! It's a very nice solution !! But don't you use it for editing the synth patch too ?

There is a lot of nice cases for BCR/BCF. I will give a look a this too when I will be more confortable with it.

Re: [bc2000] Problems while editing my BCR2000

2015-10-07 by Boniforti Flavio

ZAQuencer completely replaces the OS on BCR2000 so no patch editing at all.
Anyway, I wonder if there are some Matrix-1000 overlays for BCR2000 (or BCF2000)... anybody here?

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2015-10-07 22:11 GMT+02:00 lucaisard@yahoo.com [bc2000] <bc2000@yahoogroups.com>:

Yes it's a very small place haha !

Yes I remember that you have told me that ! It's a very nice solution !! But don't you use it for editing the synth patch too ?

There is a lot of nice cases for BCR/BCF. I will give a look a this too when I will be more confortable with it.


Re: [bc2000] Problems while editing my BCR2000

2015-10-07 by lucaisard@...

Ok. It would be great using both ZAQuencer and a patch editor BCR. For live it would be a dream team.

I will not be very helpful but I've seen that some guys use it together. You can send SysEx message with BCR so I would works together with Matrix 1000 but apparently there are some difficulties with it.


http://www.vintagesynth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=33868

Re: [bc2000] Problems while editing my BCR2000

2015-10-07 by Boniforti Flavio

Well, I think the main issues arose with old firmware. The new one (1.16 - which I got) is pretty good, even though I can't testify as I haven't had time to check it out on my Matrix-100 yet! :-( Anyway, many 1.16-users are happy!

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2015-10-07 22:34 GMT+02:00 lucaisard@... [bc2000] <bc2000@yahoogroups.com>:

Ok. It would be great using both ZAQuencer and a patch editor BCR. For live it would be a dream team.

I will not be very helpful but I've seen that some guys use it together. You can send SysEx message with BCR so I would works together with Matrix 1000 but apparently there are some difficulties with it.


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