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newb rudiments help?

newb rudiments help?

2008-01-06 by mhanderson48

Hi all,

having now hooked up my shiny new BCF and BCR and loaded new firmware
and USB MIDI drivers, I am immediately experiencing problems that I'm
hoping someone might take the time to help me sort out.

1) BCF is set up as a Mackie controller in Cubase SX3. Controllers
seem to respond as they should - except faders always smack back down
to the bottom every time I move them up. MIDI tracks, audio tracks,
with or without any content in the track - same thing. Baffling.

2) BCR - I have NI Pro-53 so thought that would be a good place to
start tweaking and learning. Only problem is, Pro-53 doesn't respond.
This is with the Behringer Pro-53 preset loaded, and with Pro-53 MIDI
set up to recognize the BCR. On the other hand, the preset for AAS
Lounge Lizard (which I also have) worked perfectly. Much to learn here.

3)The BIG question for me I think is - how will I set up interaction
between BCR and plugins that have no MIDI setup function, e.g.
compressors, effects, and EQs? Should I be okay as long as the plugin
has MIDI learn? I think my big point of confusion is, how will the BCR
"know" what open plugin it is meant to affect?

Any and all advice will be greatly appreciated. 

best,
Mike.

Re: newb rudiments help?

2008-01-07 by mhanderson48

Further, at first blush these devices are making me feel like they
will hamper, not improve, my DAW workflow. They are not very intuitive
and I (more or less) knew that going in, but if I cannot learn to
apply them in some useful fashion pretty quickly, it will be back to
mouse and keyboard. If anyone wants to offer some encouragement or
share similar experiences, I would be really REALLY grateful!

regards,
Mike.

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "mhanderson48" <mhanderson48@...> wrote:
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> Hi all,
> 
> having now hooked up my shiny new BCF and BCR and loaded new firmware
> and USB MIDI drivers, I am immediately experiencing problems that I'm
> hoping someone might take the time to help me sort out.
> 
> 1) BCF is set up as a Mackie controller in Cubase SX3. Controllers
> seem to respond as they should - except faders always smack back down
> to the bottom every time I move them up. MIDI tracks, audio tracks,
> with or without any content in the track - same thing. Baffling.
> 
> 2) BCR - I have NI Pro-53 so thought that would be a good place to
> start tweaking and learning. Only problem is, Pro-53 doesn't respond.
> This is with the Behringer Pro-53 preset loaded, and with Pro-53 MIDI
> set up to recognize the BCR. On the other hand, the preset for AAS
> Lounge Lizard (which I also have) worked perfectly. Much to learn here.
> 
> 3)The BIG question for me I think is - how will I set up interaction
> between BCR and plugins that have no MIDI setup function, e.g.
> compressors, effects, and EQs? Should I be okay as long as the plugin
> has MIDI learn? I think my big point of confusion is, how will the BCR
> "know" what open plugin it is meant to affect?
> 
> Any and all advice will be greatly appreciated. 
> 
> best,
> Mike.
>

Re: newb rudiments help?

2008-01-09 by Steve Meiers

The good news is that most modern MIDI software offer a "Learn" function for the software knobs, sliders, etc. Right click on it and just turn the knob you want to control with on you BCx2000 or whatever MIDI controller. Software like Ableton Live, FruityLoops (FL now) and many others let you do it this way. Most offer the ability to select the control surface like the BCF or BCR.

Not so elegant MIDI software still offers a menu to select the controller links. Ambiloop falls in this category, a GREAT looper software with tons of MIDI programmability, but no learn feature. But hey, waddaya want for FREE? Same for Audacity, some MIDI control features and FREE. That's way cheaper than Sonar or Cubase, you just have to work a little harder to get it "controlled".

And the more combative software lets you "program" it (yuk) with your MIDI control.

Then if you're really adventurous, or you have some weird and wonderful ideas that need some custom controls, rpc did his magic for the BCx2000 so that you can do that too.

So don't get discouraged. Dig in and tweak, you'll get it.


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Re: newb rudiments help?

2008-01-09 by mhanderson48

Thanks for the encouragement Steve! So having tweaked, I save as a
preset for the BCR? And when I recall it with that plugin open, it
should communicate? If that's the case I should be fine...now, if I
can figure out how to get my BCF faders to stay where I move them...

--- In bc2000@...m, Steve Meiers <tekrytor@...> wrote:
>
> The good news is that most modern MIDI software offer a "Learn"
function for the software knobs, sliders, etc. Right click on it and
just turn the knob you want to control with on you BCx2000 or whatever
MIDI controller. Software like Ableton Live, FruityLoops (FL now) and
many others let you do it this way. Most offer the ability to select
the control surface like the BCF or BCR.
> 
> Not so elegant MIDI software still offers a menu to select the
controller links. Ambiloop falls in this category, a GREAT looper
software with tons of MIDI programmability, but no learn feature. But
hey, waddaya want for FREE? Same for Audacity, some MIDI control
features and FREE. That's way cheaper than Sonar or Cubase, you just
have to work a little harder to get it "controlled".
> 
> And the more combative software lets you "program" it (yuk) with
your MIDI control.
> 
> Then if you're really adventurous, or you have some weird and
wonderful ideas that need some custom controls, rpc did his magic for
the BCx2000 so that you can do that too.
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> 
> So don't get discouraged. Dig in and tweak, you'll get it.
> 
> 
> 
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