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BCR as a simple midi volume controller

2008-01-11 by boogie13203

Hi, Folks!
I just need a simple answer to this -

On the BCR2000,  I want assign ALL 32 rotary knobs to CC7.

I want to send 16 of them (each on it's own MIDI channel 1-16) to MIDI
OUT "A" to a 16 channel multitimbral synth module


Then,  I want to send 16 of them (each on it's own MIDI channel 1-16)
to MIDI OUT "B" to another 16 channel multitimbral synth module

This would allow me to control the individual volume on all the MIDI
channels on both modules.


Can this be done?


Thanks to all!

Re: BCR as a simple midi volume controller

2008-01-12 by rpcfender

Hi boogie,

> I just need a simple answer to this -
Unlikely 8)

> On the BCR2000, I want assign ALL 32 rotary knobs to CC7.
> I want to send 16 of them (each on it's own MIDI channel 1-16) to
> MIDI OUT "A" to a 16 channel multitimbral synth module

Easy. Just use the font panel

> Then, I want to send 16 of them (each on it's own MIDI channel 1-16)
> to MIDI OUT "B" to another 16 channel multitimbral synth module
> This would allow me to control the individual volume on all the MIDI
> channels on both modules.
>
>
> Can this be done?

Yes and no.

No. The BCR200 can't do it by itself as you can't pick the port to output to as far as I know. Out is Midi out however you configure the unit so all the data will appear.

Yes. If you had a PC you could set the BCR to USB mode 3.
Then you could use MidiOx.
Set up the CC7 encoders as normal.
Set up a set of CC100 (any CC that you are not going to use) the same way.

In MidiOx connect the BC USB to both the MidiA and MidiB of the BCR. (View the Midi Port Routing window)

You then need to create 2 map files.
The first one just filters out CC100 on all channels using 'discard' in the second drop down box.
Save the file as NoCC100
The second one does the same for CC7, but it also has a second line, a Map from CC100 to CC7 on all channels.
Save the file as NoCC7

Save both of these. NoCC7 and NoCC100, into the MidiOx Directory (C:\Program Files\MidiOx - or where every you set up MidiOx)

In the Midi Port Routing window right click the small box on the connecting line BCR USB to MidiA output and select properties.
Go to the "Map File" drop down box and pick NoCC100 .
When you turn CC7 encoder CC7 should come out, but when you turn a CC100 encoder nothing should come out of MiidA

Do the same for MidiB connection but choose NoCC7. The CC100 encoder should send out CC7 out the MidiB port and CC7 encoder should send out nothing.

If you need these MidiOx Map Files email me and I send them to you, but they are fairly easy to set up.

Royce

Re: BCR as a simple midi volume controller

2008-01-12 by bjonnh

Find a friend that know microcontrollers, it's relatively easy to
convert these codes and do a little converting box.

And if you have some time to discover a wonderful world of
possibilites you can teach yourself microcontrollers with boards like
arduino. With the basic board you will likely overcome this
PC-dependant midicontroller problem for your usage with a small PCB.

Feel free to ask for more informations...

Maybe when the firmware will be understood we could made things like
that (try to write ideas like that on the wiki, we will need them to
do a new firmware one day).

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "rpcfender" <rpcfender@...> wrote:

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>
> Hi boogie,
> 
> > I just need a simple answer to this -
> Unlikely 8)
> 
> > On the BCR2000,  I want assign ALL 32 rotary knobs to CC7.
> > I want to send 16 of them (each on it's own MIDI channel 1-16) to
> > MIDI OUT "A" to a 16 channel multitimbral synth module
> 
> Easy. Just use the font panel
> 
> > Then,  I want to send 16 of them (each on it's own MIDI channel 1-16)
> > to MIDI OUT "B" to another 16 channel multitimbral synth module
> > This would allow me to control the individual volume on all the MIDI
> > channels on both modules.
> >
> >
> > Can this be done?
> 
> Yes and no.
> 
> No. The BCR200 can't do it by itself as you can't pick the port to
> output to as far as I know. Out is Midi out however you configure the
> unit so all the data will appear.
> 
> 
> Yes. If you had a PC you could set the BCR to USB mode 3.
> Then you could use MidiOx.
> Set up the CC7 encoders as normal.
> Set up a set of CC100 (any CC that you are not going to use) the same
> way.
> 
> In MidiOx connect the BC USB to both the MidiA and MidiB of the BCR.
> (View the Midi Port Routing window)
> 
> You then need to create 2 map files.
> The first one just filters out CC100 on all channels using 'discard' in
> the second drop down box.
> Save the file as NoCC100
> The second one does the same for CC7, but it also has a second line, a
> Map from CC100 to CC7 on all channels.
> Save the file as NoCC7
> 
> Save both of these. NoCC7 and NoCC100, into the MidiOx Directory
> (C:\Program Files\MidiOx - or where every you set up MidiOx)
> 
> In the Midi Port Routing window right click the small box on the
> connecting line BCR USB to MidiA output and select properties.
> Go to the "Map File" drop down box and pick NoCC100 .
> When you turn CC7 encoder CC7 should come out, but when you turn a CC100
> encoder nothing should come out of MiidA
> 
> Do the same for MidiB connection but choose NoCC7. The CC100 encoder
> should send out CC7 out the MidiB port and CC7 encoder should send out
> nothing.
> 
> If you need these MidiOx Map Files email me and I send them to you, but
> they are fairly easy to set up.
> 
> Royce
>

Re: [bc2000] Re: BCR as a simple midi volume controller

2008-01-12 by Joey & John

Oy, mate!!!!

Luckily for me, I was able to achieve the same results with a bit less 
work, because I use Logic Audio 5.5 - but I'm gonna work with yer 
solution as well!

Cheers!!

Boogie

rpcfender wrote:

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>
> Hi boogie,
>
> > I just need a simple answer to this -
> Unlikely 8)
>
> > On the BCR2000,  I want assign ALL 32 rotary knobs to CC7.
> > I want to send 16 of them (each on it's own MIDI channel 1-16) to
> > MIDI OUT "A" to a 16 channel multitimbral synth module
>
> Easy. Just use the font panel
>
> > Then,  I want to send 16 of them (each on it's own MIDI channel 1-16)
> > to MIDI OUT "B" to another 16 channel multitimbral synth module
> > This would allow me to control the individual volume on all the MIDI
> > channels on both modules.
> >
> >
> > Can this be done?
>
> Yes and no.
>
> No. The BCR200 can't do it by itself as you can't pick the port to 
> output to as far as I know. Out is Midi out however you configure the 
> unit so all the data will appear.
>
>
> Yes. If you had a PC you could set the BCR to USB mode 3.
> Then you could use MidiOx.
> Set up the CC7 encoders as normal.
> Set up a set of CC100 (any CC that you are not going to use) the same way.
>
> In MidiOx connect the BC USB to both the MidiA and MidiB of the BCR. 
> (View the Midi Port Routing window)
>
> You then need to create 2 map files.
> The first one just filters out CC100 on all channels using 'discard' 
> in the second drop down box.
> Save the file as *NoCC100*
> The second one does the same for CC7, but it also has a second line, a 
> Map from CC100 to CC7 on all channels.
> Save the file as *NoCC7*
>
> Save both of these. NoCC7 and NoCC100, into the MidiOx Directory 
> (C:\Program Files\MidiOx - or where every you set up MidiOx)
>
> In the Midi Port Routing window right click the small box on the 
> connecting line BCR USB to MidiA output and select properties.
> Go to the "Map File" drop down box and pick NoCC100 .
> When you turn CC7 encoder CC7 should come out, but when you turn a 
> CC100 encoder nothing should come out of MiidA
>
> Do the same for MidiB connection but choose NoCC7. The CC100 encoder 
> should send out CC7 out the MidiB port and CC7 encoder should send out 
> nothing.
>
> If you need these MidiOx Map Files email me and I send them to you, 
> but they are fairly easy to set up.
>
> Royce
>
>

Re: BCR as a simple midi volume controller

2008-01-13 by rpcfender

Hi Boogie
>
> Luckily for me, I was able to achieve the same results with a bit less
> work, because I use Logic Audio 5.5 - but I'm gonna work with yer
> solution as well!
>

Excellent!

Perhaps you might like to post your solution here so anyone else using
Logic (not me, I use Sonar) could benefit.

All the best
Royce

> > > On the BCR2000,  I want assign ALL 32 rotary knobs to CC7.
> > > I want to send 16 of them (each on it's own MIDI channel 1-16) to
> > > MIDI OUT "A" to a 16 channel multitimbral synth module
> >
> > Easy. Just use the font panel
> >
> > > Then,  I want to send 16 of them (each on it's own MIDI channel
1-16)
> > > to MIDI OUT "B" to another 16 channel multitimbral synth module
> > > This would allow me to control the individual volume on all the
MIDI
> > > channels on both modules.
> > >
> > >
> > > Can this be done?
> >
> > Yes and no.
> >
> > No. The BCR200 can't do it by itself as you can't pick the port to
> > output to as far as I know. Out is Midi out however you configure
the
> > unit so all the data will appear.
> >
> >
> > Yes. If you had a PC you could set the BCR to USB mode 3.
> > Then you could use MidiOx.
> > Set up the CC7 encoders as normal.
> > Set up a set of CC100 (any CC that you are not going to use) the
same way.
> >
> > In MidiOx connect the BC USB to both the MidiA and MidiB of the BCR.
> > (View the Midi Port Routing window)
> >
> > You then need to create 2 map files.
> > The first one just filters out CC100 on all channels using 'discard'
> > in the second drop down box.
> > Save the file as *NoCC100*
> > The second one does the same for CC7, but it also has a second line,
a
> > Map from CC100 to CC7 on all channels.
> > Save the file as *NoCC7*
> >
> > Save both of these. NoCC7 and NoCC100, into the MidiOx Directory
> > (C:\Program Files\MidiOx - or where every you set up MidiOx)
> >
> > In the Midi Port Routing window right click the small box on the
> > connecting line BCR USB to MidiA output and select properties.
> > Go to the "Map File" drop down box and pick NoCC100 .
> > When you turn CC7 encoder CC7 should come out, but when you turn a
> > CC100 encoder nothing should come out of MiidA
> >
> > Do the same for MidiB connection but choose NoCC7. The CC100 encoder
> > should send out CC7 out the MidiB port and CC7 encoder should send
out

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> > nothing.
> >
> > If you need these MidiOx Map Files email me and I send them to you,
> > but they are fairly easy to set up.
> >
> > Royce
> >
> >
>

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