Cgs synth

Ouch. Well, I'm going to order a couple panels from Schaeffer to see if I
got it right on the design tip. Shipping is ~$22 for <5kg, which isn't too
bad, and I've got to get quite a few, so...

I'm going to get a least a Dual Psycho LFO, Oakley wavefolder, VCO and
triple EG. Buy 5 of any one design and get 10% off their cost. Anyone
interested? I'll be getting another batch after the holidays, so maybe we
can order together and save some money -- ? (I'm a baker. We're talking
poverty-line here :)

If the dual psycho looks good, I'll try designing a dual 2u CGS Wavetable.
That way we can have one of each rom in one handy-dandy panel :)
Ken -- what are the dimensions going to be on the display? Will we be able
to fit two on one panel?
Any preferences on pushbutton styles?

thom

----Original Message Follows----
From: J G Wong <adaaxs@...>
Reply-To: cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com
To: cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [cgs_synth] Re: Front Panels
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 23:42:24 -0500

The last time I ordered stooge panels it took almost four months
compared to four days from shaeffer. It screwed me up so bad I had to
shelve my Oakley vcos because I couldn't schedule build time, that is
not cool. I paid them to drill them and they drilled them off center,
Well done though. If I could get a domestic panel that delivers or not
when they say and doesn't cost more than a german panel, count me in. I
really want some wavetable panels, I've got 6 rev 1 boards and would
love to have a couple of matching pairs.

How's that display board coming Ken ?

gino

"Larry T." wrote:

>
> The Stooges will do anything. But the cost per panel is very high in
> single quantities. As the quantity goes up, the unit cost goes down.
> That's why I was suggesting a common panel design for some of Ken's
> PCB's, and then get a group to order so we could make then affordable
> if we each only wanted one or two.
>
> Larry Troth
>
> --- In cgs_synth@y..., "Thom Somneevich" <thom_s4@h...> wrote:
> >
> > How much do they charge for shipping? Are you in the US?
> > I think the Stooge panels look better, from the pics.
> >
> > Larry/Gino:
> > Will the Stooges do anything you design or do they just do limited
> runs of
> > Dark Star designs, for example?
> >
> > ----Original Message Follows----
> > From: J G Wong <adaaxs@e...>
> > Reply-To: cgs_synth@y...
> > To: cgs_synth@y...
> > Subject: Re: [cgs_synth] Front Panels
> > Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 23:25:48 -0500
> >
> > I have been buying shaeffer panels and stooge panels and had some
> > fabricated elsewhere and it turns out that the shaeffer panels are a
> > pretty good deal esp at the current exchange rate.
> >
> > g wong
> >
> > Thom Somneevich wrote:
> > >
> > > Who are you going to use for the frontpanels? I like the idea of
> using
> > >
> > > Schaeffer because I know the software and don't have to worry
> about
> > > cutting
> > > the metal and getting the mounting holes right on, but it seems
> kind
> > > of
> > > wasteful to ship it all the way from Germany. If you have someone
> > > stateside,
> > > that would be cool. I'd be willing to design some. I have the
> dual
> > > psycho-lfo in the files section (schaeffer file).
> > >
> > > To keep cost down and be able to fit the larger rotary-switch
> boards
> > > in the
> > > MOTM/Oakley format, you could add more to the module. For the
> burst
> > > generator, for example, you could make it 2u wide and add mults,
> or
> > > edge
> > > another board in there -- a psycho lfo (for some crazy clocking?)
>
> or a
> > > dc
> > > mixer or something from efm or oakley. Make sure the cgs board is
>
> on
> > > the
> > > right so that any overlap can still fit in the open space on the
> left
> > > in the
> > > adjoining MOTM board -- to make the rotary switch properly
> aligned,
> > > there
> > > will still be overlap on one side; mildly punk rock, but if
> you're not
> > >
> > > opposed to that... :)
> > >
> > > ----Original Message Follows----
> > > From: sasami@b...
> > > Reply-To: cgs_synth@y...
> > > To: cgs_synth@y...
> > > Subject: Re: [cgs_synth] Front Panels
> > > Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 13:55:16 +1100 (EST)
> > >
> > > I think it is a good idea. At the time the form factor of the
> MOTM
> > > modules
> > > was being discussed, I was also looking at what form factor to
> make my
> > > own
> > > modules, and was involved in the discussion with Paul, along with
> > > other SDIY
> > > members. I came to a descision before Paul, and chose the Moog
> format,
> > > with
> > > the exception that I used 1/8th jacks. I was expeting Paul would
> adopt
> > > the
> > > true moog form also, though instead he went with the slightly
> narrower
> > > 1U
> > > format. He at least did go with the 5U height.
> > >
> > > Some of my panel designs would probably transport across pretty
> > > easilly,
> > > though of course I need less space for the jacks.
> > >
> > > Boards such as the burt generator may cause grief if trying to
> fit it
> > > on a
> > > single 1U panel, as the PCB itself is the width of a moog module.
>
> Of
> > > course,
> > > if you are prepared to hand wire the switch , there will be no
> > > problem.
> > >
> > > While a lot of my other boards are of the same width, it will not
>
> be
> > > an
> > > issue, as they can easilly be mounted at 90 degrees to the panel.
> > >
> > > Ken
> > >
> > > >Hi All
> > > >
> > > >What follows is a posting I did to the EFF Support group. But
> the
> > > >same idea applies here. While Ken does not supply full kits,
> there
> > > is
> > > >still a need for front panels for the completed modules. So,
> that
> > > >being said, is there any interest based on what follows?
> > > >
> > > >Since EFM supplies FracRack size blanks with their full kits, I
> was
> > > >curious if anyone else was interested in making panels that
> would be
> > > >compatible with the MOTM format? I have several MOTM kits, and
> > > expect
> > > >to be getting more. Rather than messing with two different
> panel
> > > >sizes, and patch cord multiples/format converters, I was
> thinking of
> > > >makeing MOTM compatible panels. If there is any interest, maybe
>
> some
> > > >of you would like to help me do the layouts? I have done a
> little
> > > >research and there are sources we could piggyback on to get the
> > > panels
> > > >made professionally if there is enough interest. Panels would
> > > probaly
> > > >end up around USD25 to USD35 each. If we could make 5-10 of a
> single
> > > >design, and 3 different designs (i.e. production run of 15 to 30
> > > >panels total). As with most issues of this type, the major
> costs are
> > > >in the setup, so the more panels of the same design made, the
> lower
> > > >the cost per panel. Also, in the MOTM format, a normal setup
> does 3
> > > >different designs in a single silk screen master.
> > > >
> > > >BTW, the intent here is NOT to start a flame war, but to see if
> there
> > > >is some interest in this panel size as a common format. I find
> that
> > > I
> > > >get the most use out of systems that have mixed sources. I am
> also
> > > >working on some CGS PCB's and I will be looking at the
> possibility of
> > > >MOTM format panels for them as well.
> > > >
> > > >Thanks all, and I'll look forward to hearing from you. If you
> wish
> > > to
> > > >reply off-list, please feel free to e-mail me: ltroth@s...
> > > >Otherwise, I look forward to seeing how this discussion evolves
> on
> > > the
> > > >list.
> > > >
> > > >Larry Troth
> > >
> > >
> ______________________________________________________________________
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