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Utility LFO question

2006-04-12 by The Alison Project

Hey all

Can the Utility LFO be modified to run at a slower rate???? If so can anyone point me in the right direction for this modification, preferably I would like to add a switch that can let me choose between short and long lfo range times.

thanks
Chris

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Re: Utility LFO question

2006-04-12 by Romeo Fahl

I did this. The 47n cap attached to the opamp labelled "integrator" is
what determines the oscillation rate. I put a larger and a smaller cap
in parallel so that I'd have three ranges to switch between. Pretty
simple mod, actually. Take a look at Ray Wilson's LFO design for a
visual diagram:

http://www.musicfromouterspace.com/analogsynth/coolnewlfo.html

I think I used 2.2uF electrolytics back to back for a really slow rate,
similar to the way Ray used C1 and C2 in his circuit.

Romeo
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On Apr 12, 2006, at 5:49 AM, The Alison Project wrote:

> Hey all
>
> Can the Utility LFO be modified to run at a slower rate???? If so can
> anyone point me in the right direction for this modification,
> preferably I would like to add a switch that can let me choose between
> short and long lfo range times.
>
> thanks
> Chris
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Re: Utility LFO question

2006-04-12 by Pete

I was just about to ask this question. I just got my LFO boards, and this
is a very simple mod. Cool stuff! What other value caps can be used?

Thanks Romeo

pete
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On 4/12/06, Romeo Fahl <rfahl@...> wrote:
>
> I did this. The 47n cap attached to the opamp labelled "integrator" is
> what determines the oscillation rate. I put a larger and a smaller cap
> in parallel so that I'd have three ranges to switch between. Pretty
> simple mod, actually. Take a look at Ray Wilson's LFO design for a
> visual diagram:
>
> http://www.musicfromouterspace.com/analogsynth/coolnewlfo.html
>
> I think I used 2.2uF electrolytics back to back for a really slow rate,
> similar to the way Ray used C1 and C2 in his circuit.
>
> Romeo
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>
> On Apr 12, 2006, at 5:49 AM, The Alison Project wrote:
>
> > Hey all
> >
> > Can the Utility LFO be modified to run at a slower rate???? If so can
> > anyone point me in the right direction for this modification,
> > preferably I would like to add a switch that can let me choose between
> > short and long lfo range times.
> >
> > thanks
> > Chris
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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> > The CGS Modular Synth home page: http://www.cgs.synth.net/
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> > Yahoo! Groups Links
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> The CGS Modular Synth home page: http://www.cgs.synth.net/
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Re: Utility LFO question

2006-04-12 by Romeo Fahl

With lower freq stuff it doesn't seem to matter too much. I used a
3.3uF non-polarized cap on one, two polarized 2.2uF caps back to back
on another. I got the idea from an LFO in Barry Klein's book, which I
think used two 1 uF caps back to back. For a faster range, I would try
the default cap value x 10. Since you're working with a utility LFO,
there's probably no hard and fast rule as to what will work best.

Romeo
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On Apr 12, 2006, at 12:05 PM, Pete wrote:

> I was just about to ask this question. I just got my LFO boards, and
> this
> is a very simple mod. Cool stuff! What other value caps can be used?
>
> Thanks Romeo
>
> pete
>
> On 4/12/06, Romeo Fahl <rfahl@...> wrote:
>>
>> I did this. The 47n cap attached to the opamp labelled "integrator"
>> is
>> what determines the oscillation rate. I put a larger and a smaller
>> cap
>> in parallel so that I'd have three ranges to switch between. Pretty
>> simple mod, actually. Take a look at Ray Wilson's LFO design for a
>> visual diagram:
>>
>> http://www.musicfromouterspace.com/analogsynth/coolnewlfo.html
>>
>> I think I used 2.2uF electrolytics back to back for a really slow
>> rate,
>> similar to the way Ray used C1 and C2 in his circuit.
>>
>> Romeo
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 12, 2006, at 5:49 AM, The Alison Project wrote:
>>
>>> Hey all
>>>
>>> Can the Utility LFO be modified to run at a slower rate???? If so can
>>> anyone point me in the right direction for this modification,
>>> preferably I would like to add a switch that can let me choose
>>> between
>>> short and long lfo range times.
>>>
>>> thanks
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The CGS Modular Synth home page: http://www.cgs.synth.net/
>>>
>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The CGS Modular Synth home page: http://www.cgs.synth.net/
>>
>>
>>
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> --
> listen to my tunes,
>
> http://www.cubanpetemusic.com/12_21_04%20final%20mix.mp3
>
> www.cubanpetemusic.com
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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> The CGS Modular Synth home page: http://www.cgs.synth.net/
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: Utility LFO question

2006-04-13 by Rykhaard D.A.M.I.A.N.

On 4/12/06, Romeo Fahl <rfahl@...> wrote:
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> With lower freq stuff it doesn't seem to matter too much. I used a
> 3.3uF non-polarized cap on one, two polarized 2.2uF caps back to back
> on another. I got the idea from an LFO in Barry Klein's book, which I
> think used two 1 uF caps back to back. For a faster range, I would try
> the default cap value x 10. Since you're working with a utility LFO,
> there's probably no hard and fast rule as to what will work best.
>
> Romeo

In MANY LFOs built over the years from Electronotes and Barry Klein
originals, I've gone anywhere from 0.1 to 10uF in values. Try
different combinations out, to see which you like the best. :)

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Take care,
Warmth and Peace,
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the old site - Mar 2706

Schematics coming to the webpage soon - as I'm following Scott G.'s
method of using Microsoft Paintshop to make my schem's with. :) :)

Re: Utility LFO question

2006-04-19 by thealisonproject

Thanks everyone for the info on getting the Utility LFO to run and
slower rates, time to do some playing around.

Chris


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--- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com, "Rykhaard D.A.M.I.A.N."
<rykhaard@...> wrote:
>
> On 4/12/06, Romeo Fahl <rfahl@...> wrote:
> > With lower freq stuff it doesn't seem to matter too much. I used a
> > 3.3uF non-polarized cap on one, two polarized 2.2uF caps back to back
> > on another. I got the idea from an LFO in Barry Klein's book, which I
> > think used two 1 uF caps back to back. For a faster range, I
would try
> > the default cap value x 10. Since you're working with a utility LFO,
> > there's probably no hard and fast rule as to what will work best.
> >
> > Romeo
>
> In MANY LFOs built over the years from Electronotes and Barry Klein
> originals, I've gone anywhere from 0.1 to 10uF in values. Try
> different combinations out, to see which you like the best. :)
>
> --
> Take care,
> Warmth and Peace,
> Ryk
>
> http://www.sdiy.org/damian/index.html - still transferring all from
> the old site - Mar 2706
>
> Schematics coming to the webpage soon - as I'm following Scott G.'s
> method of using Microsoft Paintshop to make my schem's with. :) :)
>

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