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Programmer/Sequencer project

2007-01-11 by stuadh

Hi all,

I'm considering taking on the programmer project with a view to
building a 16 step sequencer with trigger outputs. Has anyone done
this and would be willing to pass on some of their experience?

Yours Aye

Stuadh

Re: Programmer/Sequencer project

2007-01-11 by stuadh

Hi,

I've had some time to study the schematics now and I have some
specific questions to confirm my understanding of the circuit before I
commit to buying. I have a Doepfer A-155 and knowing that this is my
starting point might help understand what I'm trying to achieve with
this Programmer.

1. I'm not sure I understand how to limit the number of steps in the
sequence and what exactly the Ext Pulse does. For example, if you
want to run from steps 3 through to 7, would you patch the pulse of
step 7 to the Ext pulse of step 3?

2. With respect to the push buttons, do these act as a "reset to this
step" button?

3. Would wiring a debounced, push-button from the +15V to the up (or
down) input (as suggested in an earlier post) act as a one step advance?

4. On the A boards, pulse out circuit, could all stages be wired
through switches to a single LED, 820R, pulse-out and 680R? The
reasoning behind this is to replicate more conventional sequencers
where each row of switches goes to a single indicating LED and socket.
And then add four rows of switches.

5. What voltages do the pots put out (at 12V if anyone knows,
otherwise, at 15V)?

6. What voltage do the stage pulse outs, the CPO and AEP produce? Do
the stages produce a trigger or gate?

I'd appreciate greatly if anyone can answer these questions.

Yours Aye

Stuadh
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--- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com, "stuadh" <stuadh@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm considering taking on the programmer project with a view to
> building a 16 step sequencer with trigger outputs. Has anyone done
> this and would be willing to pass on some of their experience?
>
> Yours Aye
>
> Stuadh
>

Re: Programmer/Sequencer project

2007-01-11 by sasami@hotkey.net.au

Programmer:

>1. I'm not sure I understand how to limit the number of steps in the
>sequence and what exactly the Ext Pulse does. For example, if you
>want to run from steps 3 through to 7, would you patch the pulse of
>step 7 to the Ext pulse of step 3?

You would patch the pulse of step 8 (not 7) to Ext pulse of step 3. When
step 8 is activated, it immediately activates step 3, cancelling itself in
the process.

>2. With respect to the push buttons, do these act as a "reset to this
>step" button?

Exactly.


>3. Would wiring a debounced, push-button from the +15V to the up (or
>down) input (as suggested in an earlier post) act as a one step advance?

Yes.

>4. On the A boards, pulse out circuit, could all stages be wired
>through switches to a single LED, 820R, pulse-out and 680R? The
>reasoning behind this is to replicate more conventional sequencers
>where each row of switches goes to a single indicating LED and socket.
> And then add four rows of switches.

You would want to add a 1N4148 diode into the circuit per stage, exactly
where the LED is shown, then go to your switch etc.

>5. What voltages do the pots put out (at 12V if anyone knows,
>otherwise, at 15V)?

The total is adjustable by tweaking the values of the resistors in the CV
buffers

>6. What voltage do the stage pulse outs, the CPO and AEP produce? Do
>the stages produce a trigger or gate?

5- 6 volts approx. Pulse Outs are GATE. CPO/AEP triggers. There may be a
fault with one of these I haven't investigated yet. I've heard of some CPOs
apparently not working - it may just be user error.

Ken
_______________________________________________________________________
Ken Stone sasami@...
Modular Synth PCBs for sale <http://www.blaze.net.au/~sasami/synth/>
Australian Miniature Horses & Ponies <http://www.blaze.net.au/~sasami/>

Re: Programmer/Sequencer project

2007-01-11 by stuadh

Wow,

thanks for getting back so quickly.

Two more questions, if I may. Q5, below sounded dumb, but what I
meant was what is the voltage range (ie is it compatible with Doepfer
& A systems kit - I assume it is).

And Q6, is there a simple way to make the pulse out a trigger?

Much appreciated

Stuadh

PS - I've spent the last few months agonizing over which sequencer to
buy and here I find the perfect one all along!
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--- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com, sasami@... wrote:
>
> Programmer:
>
> >1. I'm not sure I understand how to limit the number of steps in the
> >sequence and what exactly the Ext Pulse does. For example, if you
> >want to run from steps 3 through to 7, would you patch the pulse of
> >step 7 to the Ext pulse of step 3?
>
> You would patch the pulse of step 8 (not 7) to Ext pulse of step 3. When
> step 8 is activated, it immediately activates step 3, cancelling
itself in
> the process.
>
> >2. With respect to the push buttons, do these act as a "reset to this
> >step" button?
>
> Exactly.
>
>
> >3. Would wiring a debounced, push-button from the +15V to the up (or
> >down) input (as suggested in an earlier post) act as a one step
advance?
>
> Yes.
>
> >4. On the A boards, pulse out circuit, could all stages be wired
> >through switches to a single LED, 820R, pulse-out and 680R? The
> >reasoning behind this is to replicate more conventional sequencers
> >where each row of switches goes to a single indicating LED and socket.
> > And then add four rows of switches.
>
> You would want to add a 1N4148 diode into the circuit per stage, exactly
> where the LED is shown, then go to your switch etc.
>
> >5. What voltages do the pots put out (at 12V if anyone knows,
> >otherwise, at 15V)?
>
> The total is adjustable by tweaking the values of the resistors in
the CV
> buffers
>
> >6. What voltage do the stage pulse outs, the CPO and AEP produce? Do
> >the stages produce a trigger or gate?
>
> 5- 6 volts approx. Pulse Outs are GATE. CPO/AEP triggers. There may be a
> fault with one of these I haven't investigated yet. I've heard of
some CPOs
> apparently not working - it may just be user error.
>
> Ken
> _______________________________________________________________________
> Ken Stone sasami@...
> Modular Synth PCBs for sale <http://www.blaze.net.au/~sasami/synth/>
> Australian Miniature Horses & Ponies <http://www.blaze.net.au/~sasami/>
>

Re: Programmer/Sequencer project

2007-01-12 by stuadh

Of course, I could always use your Gate to Trigger Converter! Just
answered my own question.

Cheers
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--- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com, "stuadh" <stuadh@...> wrote:
>
> Wow,
>
> thanks for getting back so quickly.
>
> Two more questions, if I may. Q5, below sounded dumb, but what I
> meant was what is the voltage range (ie is it compatible with Doepfer
> & A systems kit - I assume it is).
>
> And Q6, is there a simple way to make the pulse out a trigger?
>
> Much appreciated
>
> Stuadh
>
> PS - I've spent the last few months agonizing over which sequencer to
> buy and here I find the perfect one all along!
>
> --- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com, sasami@ wrote:
> >
> > Programmer:
> >
> > >1. I'm not sure I understand how to limit the number of steps in the
> > >sequence and what exactly the Ext Pulse does. For example, if you
> > >want to run from steps 3 through to 7, would you patch the pulse of
> > >step 7 to the Ext pulse of step 3?
> >
> > You would patch the pulse of step 8 (not 7) to Ext pulse of step
3. When
> > step 8 is activated, it immediately activates step 3, cancelling
> itself in
> > the process.
> >
> > >2. With respect to the push buttons, do these act as a "reset to this
> > >step" button?
> >
> > Exactly.
> >
> >
> > >3. Would wiring a debounced, push-button from the +15V to the up (or
> > >down) input (as suggested in an earlier post) act as a one step
> advance?
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> > >4. On the A boards, pulse out circuit, could all stages be wired
> > >through switches to a single LED, 820R, pulse-out and 680R? The
> > >reasoning behind this is to replicate more conventional sequencers
> > >where each row of switches goes to a single indicating LED and
socket.
> > > And then add four rows of switches.
> >
> > You would want to add a 1N4148 diode into the circuit per stage,
exactly
> > where the LED is shown, then go to your switch etc.
> >
> > >5. What voltages do the pots put out (at 12V if anyone knows,
> > >otherwise, at 15V)?
> >
> > The total is adjustable by tweaking the values of the resistors in
> the CV
> > buffers
> >
> > >6. What voltage do the stage pulse outs, the CPO and AEP produce? Do
> > >the stages produce a trigger or gate?
> >
> > 5- 6 volts approx. Pulse Outs are GATE. CPO/AEP triggers. There
may be a
> > fault with one of these I haven't investigated yet. I've heard of
> some CPOs
> > apparently not working - it may just be user error.
> >
> > Ken
> >
_______________________________________________________________________
> > Ken Stone sasami@
> > Modular Synth PCBs for sale <http://www.blaze.net.au/~sasami/synth/>
> > Australian Miniature Horses & Ponies
<http://www.blaze.net.au/~sasami/>
> >
>

Re: Programmer/Sequencer project

2007-01-13 by stuadh

Ken,

I'm buying in supplies for the Programmer. Can you explain what the
1206 SMD (Static Memory Device?) and the Monoblock capacitors are, please.
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--- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com, "stuadh" <stuadh@...> wrote:
>
> Of course, I could always use your Gate to Trigger Converter! Just
> answered my own question.
>
> Cheers
>
> --- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com, "stuadh" <stuadh@> wrote:
> >
> > Wow,
> >
> > thanks for getting back so quickly.
> >
> > Two more questions, if I may. Q5, below sounded dumb, but what I
> > meant was what is the voltage range (ie is it compatible with Doepfer
> > & A systems kit - I assume it is).
> >
> > And Q6, is there a simple way to make the pulse out a trigger?
> >
> > Much appreciated
> >
> > Stuadh
> >
> > PS - I've spent the last few months agonizing over which sequencer to
> > buy and here I find the perfect one all along!
> >
> > --- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com, sasami@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Programmer:
> > >
> > > >1. I'm not sure I understand how to limit the number of steps
in the
> > > >sequence and what exactly the Ext Pulse does. For example, if you
> > > >want to run from steps 3 through to 7, would you patch the pulse of
> > > >step 7 to the Ext pulse of step 3?
> > >
> > > You would patch the pulse of step 8 (not 7) to Ext pulse of step
> 3. When
> > > step 8 is activated, it immediately activates step 3, cancelling
> > itself in
> > > the process.
> > >
> > > >2. With respect to the push buttons, do these act as a "reset
to this
> > > >step" button?
> > >
> > > Exactly.
> > >
> > >
> > > >3. Would wiring a debounced, push-button from the +15V to the
up (or
> > > >down) input (as suggested in an earlier post) act as a one step
> > advance?
> > >
> > > Yes.
> > >
> > > >4. On the A boards, pulse out circuit, could all stages be wired
> > > >through switches to a single LED, 820R, pulse-out and 680R? The
> > > >reasoning behind this is to replicate more conventional sequencers
> > > >where each row of switches goes to a single indicating LED and
> socket.
> > > > And then add four rows of switches.
> > >
> > > You would want to add a 1N4148 diode into the circuit per stage,
> exactly
> > > where the LED is shown, then go to your switch etc.
> > >
> > > >5. What voltages do the pots put out (at 12V if anyone knows,
> > > >otherwise, at 15V)?
> > >
> > > The total is adjustable by tweaking the values of the resistors in
> > the CV
> > > buffers
> > >
> > > >6. What voltage do the stage pulse outs, the CPO and AEP
produce? Do
> > > >the stages produce a trigger or gate?
> > >
> > > 5- 6 volts approx. Pulse Outs are GATE. CPO/AEP triggers. There
> may be a
> > > fault with one of these I haven't investigated yet. I've heard of
> > some CPOs
> > > apparently not working - it may just be user error.
> > >
> > > Ken
> > >
> _______________________________________________________________________
> > > Ken Stone sasami@
> > > Modular Synth PCBs for sale <http://www.blaze.net.au/~sasami/synth/>
> > > Australian Miniature Horses & Ponies
> <http://www.blaze.net.au/~sasami/>
> > >
> >
>

Re: Programmer/Sequencer project

2007-01-14 by mbedtom

Check out this link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface-mount_technology

SMD = Surface Mount Device, a component part that falls within the
family of SMT ... Surface Mount Technology.

After reading that link, you will have learned among other things,
that a "1206" component measures about .12" by .06" which is where the
moniker "1206" comes from. And an 0805 component will measure about
how big? Yup, .08" by .05"!

I'll let Ken correct me if I'm off-base but I believe that "monoblock"
refers to a capacitor that is contained within a rectangular plastic
housing with the connecting leads sticking out the bottom of the part.
(A "Radial" mounted component.) The small plastic housing that
encompasses the capacitor is filled with a plastic goo that hardens
during the manufacturing process. That makes for a monolithic
structure. Since the capacitor looks like a "block" and cannot be
dissected in to its constituent parts (monolithic) it is called a
"monoblock".

Go to Mouser.com and search for "wima" without the quotes. Those, I
believe, are the capacitors to which Ken referred. ("Wima" is a brand
name by the way.)

Peace.
Tom Farrand
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--- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com, "stuadh" <stuadh@...> wrote:
>
> Ken,
>
> I'm buying in supplies for the Programmer. Can you explain what the
> 1206 SMD (Static Memory Device?) and the Monoblock capacitors are,
please.

<big snip>

Re: Programmer/Sequencer project

2007-01-14 by sasami@hotkey.net.au

Monoblock is one term given to the nasty little ceramic capacitors used for
decoupling. Their dialectric is a little "slab" or block. Basically, if
monoblock is specified, any damn thing will do if it fits. No need to waste
money on nice capacitors.

Ken
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>Check out this link:
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface-mount_technology
>
>SMD = Surface Mount Device, a component part that falls within the
>family of SMT ... Surface Mount Technology.
>
>After reading that link, you will have learned among other things,
>that a "1206" component measures about .12" by .06" which is where the
>moniker "1206" comes from. And an 0805 component will measure about
>how big? Yup, .08" by .05"!
>
>I'll let Ken correct me if I'm off-base but I believe that "monoblock"
>refers to a capacitor that is contained within a rectangular plastic
>housing with the connecting leads sticking out the bottom of the part.
> (A "Radial" mounted component.) The small plastic housing that
>encompasses the capacitor is filled with a plastic goo that hardens
>during the manufacturing process. That makes for a monolithic
>structure. Since the capacitor looks like a "block" and cannot be
>dissected in to its constituent parts (monolithic) it is called a
>"monoblock".
>
>Go to Mouser.com and search for "wima" without the quotes. Those, I
>believe, are the capacitors to which Ken referred. ("Wima" is a brand
>name by the way.)
>
>Peace.
>Tom Farrand
>
>
>--- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com, "stuadh" <stuadh@...> wrote:
>>
>> Ken,
>>
>> I'm buying in supplies for the Programmer. Can you explain what the
>> 1206 SMD (Static Memory Device?) and the Monoblock capacitors are,
>please.
>
><big snip>
>
>
>
>The CGS Modular Synth home page: http://www.cgs.synth.net/
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
_______________________________________________________________________
Ken Stone sasami@...
Modular Synth PCBs for sale <http://www.blaze.net.au/~sasami/synth/>
Australian Miniature Horses & Ponies <http://www.blaze.net.au/~sasami/>

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