Datacolor User to User Support Group.

Thanks for the advice John, anyway I dont want to move much. For
instance I have a profile for illford pearl for my 4000. I am happy
with it color wise, but the darks want to block up a little sooner
than I want compared to my atkinson profiles. If I drop the contrast
with PFP slider, It starts flattening out the image. I dont want to
apply a PS adjustment to each image. It would get to confusing with my
production workflow. I print everything out of qimage.  IF I could
just tweek the bottom end some I would be happy. 

Randy

--- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, "sinar001" <jnolly@...> wrote:
>
> Randy:
> Want to warn you about "pushing" profiles around too much--you can be
> asking for trouble, such as posterizations, etc. 
> 
> Small adjustments are alright, but for the most part, I like to let
> the profiles fall to the default, and use adjustment layers on
> individual files to achieve precise results. After all, every image
> will vary, and creating a custom profile for one, just creates a
> problem for another. Unless you are photographing people under the
> same consistent conditions, I don't think you really want to monkey
> with profile changes. 
> 
> John Nollendorfs
> 
> --- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, "Randy Laskody"
> <rlphoto@> wrote:
> >
> > Most of my work is color and of people on photo paper. The thing with
> > the old printfixpro was limited editing functions for the profile. The
> > global sliders where just too vague for what I needed for profile
> > adjustment. Am I reading I can use curves to edit my profiles? This
> > would be nice.
> > 
> > Randy Laskody
> > 
> > --- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, CDTobie@ wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > In a message dated 10/13/06 7:12:52 AM, rlphoto@ writes:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > Thanks CD, anyway since I have a 4000/7600 how will the new
version
> > > > help me?
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > It won't work magic, since it runs via the RGB driver; so whatever
> gray 
> > > generation your driver uses will be what you get. 4000/7600
> > generation printers, 
> > > that create light grays from LtC, LtM, and Y will still be less
> > precise than 
> > > more recent printers that use extra light gray to replace a lot of
> > the color in 
> > > neutrals and near neutrals of light tone. And the light grays will
> > still have 
> > > more metamerism under various light sources than the newer models as
> > well. But 
> > > if you are printing B&W using standard color inksets from these
> > printers now, 
> > > then PFP2 should improve your results doing so. It will be better
> > B&W, just 
> > > not gallery quality B&W. 
> > > 
> > > Gallery quality from these older models will still require a third
> > party 
> > > inkset and some method to drive it (and PrintFIX PRO may well be
> > used to linearize 
> > > and/or profile such systems, but not via standard ICC profiles). I'd
> > love to 
> > > see B&W oriented inksets that can be controlled via PrintFIX PRO2.0
> > profiles 
> > > developed, so that users can get gallery quality B&W with custom
> > profiling and 
> > > previewing from such printers by dedicating them to B&W only, but we
> > need to 
> > > get the first 2.0 release done and out to users before looking into
> > more 
> > > advanced issues like third party ink support.
> > > 
> > > At the moment PFP will support any color inkset that prints properly
> > through 
> > > the driver, and can be used with Paul Roark's "hack" for the
> R2400, by 
> > > replacing the yellow cart with one of his carbon-gray carts for B&W
> > printing. Whether 
> > > variations on that system for older models can be developed is still
> > an open 
> > > question, but Paul and I both see PrintFIX PRO profiling of
> > specialty inksets 
> > > as a good idea, worth pursuing in the future.
> > > 
> > > C. David Tobie
> > > Product Technology Manager
> > > ColorVision Business Division
> > > DataColor Inc.
> > > CDTobie@
> > > www.colorvision.com
> > >
> >
>