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Printfix Pro Spectro Issue? Prints Yellow/Green

2007-01-05 by willruggles

I am confused. I just got a Lacie 321 and also changed from Printfix Pro Beta to the final 
2.0 version. I printed a 225 patch as well as the extended gray one on Epson En Matte, and 
after drying, read them, finally making profiles with and without the Extended Gray. 
Printing from within PFP the Brightness and Contrast were pretty close, and saturation a bit 
high, but the color was way off toward Yellow/Green. I printed some other images. They 
also printed off with this green/yellow cast in color and black and white. Also, I saw little 
difference with an intent of Sat or Perc. 

I was amazed since I had had better luck earlier with beta versions and using my old 
monitor. So I tried a 729 with X-Gray reading. Very close to the 225 and off! I had to 
adjust the Green down 6, Red up 1, and the Blue up 12 to get a decent match for my 
monitor. Even with the new subtler color slider values this seems like a lot of adjustment 
after nearly 1000 readings to make the profile for the printer. And all the gear is good 
stuff that is carefully calibrated.

I use an Epson 2200 and Mac OS 10.4.8, a Lacie 321 and a Samsung 191T. I have the 
desktop, menus and tools on the Samsung and the images from Photoshop on the Lacie. 
Both monitors are calibrated to 5000K 2.2 gamma, 110 Luminance and I use a 5000K 
viewing light. The Lacie is hardware calibrated and the Samsung's hardware is RGB 
adjusted for color and luminance and software calibrated. They both look Neutral and 
when dragging images across them, the color is pretty close. I am using Adobe RGB for the 
Photoshop color space and printing to the new profiles, perceptual intent and letting 
photoshop determine colors. The Epson paper choice is for Enhanced Matte (the paper I 
am profiling for) with no color management.

First I wondered if Photoshop was using the profile from the Samsung while I was 
adjusting images on the Lacie since the Mac menu bar and Photoshop tools are on the 
samsung. So I looked, and its profile does show up as the monitor in use in the workspace 
pull down in photoshop's color settings (I keep the workspace set at Adobe RGB). So I set 
the Samsung Display preference to use the same profile as the Lacie, but the printing 
seemed about the same. I do have the Samsung basically hardware calibrated though, so 
Photoshop could be using its profile and it is so close to the Lacie profile that I have not 
seen the difference in my limited testing. In the meantime I am choosing the Lacie profile 
in the Samsung Display Color Preference for all testing just in case. Calibrating the Lacie to 
6500 or to a higher or lower luminance does not help. Also calibrating the Lacie (over the 
previous hardware calibration) with Spyder Pro or Eye One software calibration changes 
things a teeny bit on screen but printed I find any difference indiscernible. Certainly not 
meaningful relative to the yellow/green shift.

So my questions are:

What am I doing wrong?
Is this level of color shift in spec for Printfix Pro?
Is my spectro off?
Is it necessary to have your primary viewing monitor on a Mac be setup as such in 
Photoshop so that its profile is the start of color management, or does it automatically 
recognize the monitor the image is viewed on as the source monitor?
If it is necessary, is there a way to do this (other than manually as I have been doing) and 
still have the menu bar on the secondary monitor? I like not having anything but the photo 
on the viewing monitor.

By the way, I love the black and white possibilities with PPF. With my printer left on color, 
once the profile is tweaked, it works impressively for Black and White printing. Also, I 
found it helpful tweaking out this color shift with a black and white image since the shifts 
show up quite clearly against grays and black. And finally, contrast and brightness are 
easier for me to discern without the distraction of color. So for color profiles, what a nice 
addition the extended grays have brought to the tools!

Thanks for any advice.

Will

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