Datacolor User to User Support Group.

Mr. Tobie,

On another forum the question of making profiles for the Canon printers 
arose.  One member with an ipF 9000 stating he was unable to profile 
some non Canon papers due to over inking, etc.  You were around these 
machines at the kina.  What do you know about this issue?

Paul

C.D.

Haven't gotten the 8000 yet but starting to get my ducks in a row 
when it comes to profiling.  

I will be using Hahnemeuhle Photo Rag, William Turner and Breathing 
Color Chromata canvas on the new Canon.  Do you recommend profiling 
these paper types with the Canon driver or the Photoshop export 
module.  I have heard that there are much better results to be had 
from the 16bit export module.  Is that your experience?  

Lastly I am assuming that the export module cannot be used with 
Qimage like the Canon driver...  What can you tell me on these issues?

-Jonathan 


> I have not had excess ink in raw (unprofiled) prints for profiling 
targets on 
> the iPF printers. I have not had difficulty profiling these 
printers through 
> either the drivers, or the Photoshop Export modules. One user in 
these threads 
> seems to want to build n-channel (in his case seven channel!) 
profiles, and 
> feed them to RGB drivers, which is not possible (and not reasonable 
either). 
> Others may be talking about ink limiting in RIPs. I don't care much 
about either 
> of those issues since I can get gallery quality color and B&W 
prints on a 
> range of gloss and matte fine art papers right through the Canon 
driver and 
> export module with PrintFIX PRO 2.0 profiles... I don't see any 
reason to make it 

> more difficult than that.
> 
> C. David Tobie
> Product Technology Manager
> ColorVision Business Division
> DataColor Inc.
> CDTobie@...
> www.colorvision.com
>

Sounds like I should standardize my workflow on the driver so I can 
print from either Pshop or Qimage.

The driver is crazy with all the paper settings and options all over 
the place.  The epson driver makes so much more sense to me...

-Jonathan

--- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, CDTobie@... wrote:
>
> 
> In a message dated 12/14/06 1:36:17 AM, jpgentry@... writes:
> 
> > 
> > I will be using Hahnemeuhle Photo Rag, William Turner and 
Breathing
> > Color Chromata canvas on the new Canon.  Do you recommend 
profiling
> > these paper types with the Canon driver or the Photoshop export
> > module.  I have heard that there are much better results to be had
> > from the 16bit export module.  Is that your experience? 
> > 
> I find them to be virtually identical in output, once each is 
profiled via 
> its own workflow (in other words, profile the export module through 
the export 
> module, and the driver through the driver). I suspect that those 
seeing a 
> difference are running into one or another of the bugs in these 
drivers, but who 
> knows... perhaps its a platform difference.
> > 
> > Lastly I am assuming that the export module cannot be used with
> > 
> I haven't tried the export module with Qimage, being Mac-based. 
But   I would 

> actually be suprised if it WAS accessible to Qimage...
> 
> C. David Tobie
> Product Technology Manager
> ColorVision Business Unit
> Datacolor Inc.
> CDTobie@...
> www.colorvision.com
>