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Re: Profiling HP DesignJets

Re: Profiling HP DesignJets

2006-03-09 by CDTobie@aol.com


In a message dated 3/9/06 1:03:49 PM, jpgentry@... writes:


Excellent decription. Makes me more confident with reading my
patches and not being overly anal about the whole thing. I do know
at times however that a printer can have trouble with the heads or
there can be a very minute amount of gunk on the paper that will
cause an anomaly in the reading apart from just missing patches etc..
My idea with throwing out the anomalies of three patch readings would
catch either situation although a careful examination of the patches
beforehand should ceratinly suffice for print problems on the
patches... What you say makes sense. Nothing to worry about.


With the DesignJets you have an extra option. You can take your favorite paper from a given category (Say Matte, they have more gloss categories, but only one Matte, as I recall; HP is a bit weak on Mattes) and run a sheet of your preferred paper of the category through in the Calbrate process, calibrating that entire category (unfortunately its only one Calibration per category) and linearize and calibrate the printer to that paper. This means that (in most cases) your profiling targets will come out without clogged up dark areas, or weak light ends, or off color grays. So the profile can must do its job, without having to try to calibrate the device at the same time... This is not well documented, so I thought I should note it here, as many DesignJet users are unaware of this function.

Bravo on a great product. I've been printing with my dj130 now for
quite awile using default profiles and resisting the urge to get
custom profiles made (because I wanted an i1 in the past.) Now after
just one day with the PrintFixPro I feel like the last 20% of the
printer has been unlocked. I printed a photo heavy on browns out
last night that the custom HP profiles had destroyed. In the past
the colors looked aweful and I thought the browns were just out of
gamut for the printer or something. After profiling with PFP the
image is AWESOME! It looks just like the monitor. A little darker
because I'm viewing under standard lighting. Thanks for the great
product. Anyone using the default HP profiles for designjet printers
really NEEDS one of these.

I actually ran the process of custom calibrating and profiling a DesignJet 130 in front of the 130 Design and Marketing teams in Barcelona (where DesignJets are born), back before the printer was released. I told them then that their canned profiles were an improvement on previous models, but insufficient for serious photography. They didn't choose to alter their course at that late date, but perhaps with this next round of new machines. Of course, a DesignJet/PrintFIX PRO bundle would fix the problem too...

C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
ColorVision Business Unit
Datacolor Inc.
CDTobie@...

www.colorvision.com

PFP crashes with HP DesignJet 130

2006-03-21 by JAMES WEST

Hi to the group,
 
   I just received my ColorVision package last week and seem to have
repeated software crashes while trying to launch PrintFIX Pro. I'm
attempting to use PFPro to calibrate printer papers for my HP DesignJet 130
printer. I have managed to get through the entire process once with good
results while producing a profile for HP Premium Plus Photo Satin paper. It
seems that once I exit the application and try to start it up again I get
the repeated crashes of PFPro. The only way I've been able to get past this
is to delete the PFPro preferences file and go back through the startup
routine again. It seems that the PFPro software doesn't like seeing the
DesignJet 130 printer configuration upon start up.
 
   I contacted ColorVision support and they suggested downloading the latest
beta code from the ColorVision support site. I downloaded version 1.1b5 and
it behaves the same way. Any suggestions? Anyone else using this printer
with PFPro?
 
   One other small thing I noticed about version 1.1b5 - It seems that upon
entering the cal routine I can only do a white level cal. What happened to
black level calibration?
 
Thanks,
Jim West

Re: PFP crashes with HP DesignJet 130

2006-03-21 by John Vitollo

--- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, "JAMES WEST" <james.west@...> wrote:  
>    I contacted ColorVision support and they suggested downloading the latest
> beta code from the ColorVision support site. I downloaded version 1.1b5 and
> it behaves the same way. Any suggestions? Anyone else using this printer
> with PFPro?

What OS? Mac or Windows?

>    One other small thing I noticed about version 1.1b5 - It seems that upon
> entering the cal routine I can only do a white level cal. What happened to
> black level calibration?

On the Syder2Pro I see the same....I think black level is at .30 and can't be changed. White 
can be adjusted. I was fine with it, so it wasn't an issue.

RE: [colorvision_group] Re: PFP crashes with HP DesignJet 130

2006-03-21 by JAMES WEST

--- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, "JAMES WEST" <james.west@...>
wrote:  
>    I contacted ColorVision support and they suggested downloading the
latest
> beta code from the ColorVision support site. I downloaded version 1.1b5
and
> it behaves the same way. Any suggestions? Anyone else using this printer
> with PFPro?

What OS? Mac or Windows?

Hi John,
 
   Sorry, I forgot that information. I'm running a Windows XP based system
and my printer is connected via USB.
 
Thanks,
Jim

RE: [colorvision_group] Re: PFP crashes with HP DesignJet 130

2006-03-21 by JAMES WEST

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few question might be of help:
1) Did you use the latest driver downloaded from the HP website?
2) did you download the latest XP upgrade for the M$ website?
3) are you using a English Versino of Windows XP?
4) finally, you're not an overclocker are you? 

xun 

Hi Xun,
 
   Thanks for the suggestions. My HP driver software and XP are both up to
date and I'm using the english version of XP and am not an overclocker.
David Miller of ColorVision has contacted me offline and is helping me get
to the bottom of this crash issue. I just want to mention that I appreciate
David's help and it's certainly nice to have one of the ColorVision software
developers contact me directly regarding this issue.
 
Thanks,
Jim

Re: [colorvision_group] Re: PFP crashes with HP DesignJet 130

2006-03-22 by Bob Frost

Jim,

If all else fails and you have a P4 processor, you might try turning off 
Hyperthreading (HT) in your Bios. I was having problems with Nikon Capture 
crashing or hanging, and it was completely solved by turning off HT. From 
what I read, it can speed things up, but can also cause some problems.

Bob Frost.

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>   Thanks for the suggestions. My HP driver software and XP are both up to
> date and I'm using the english version of XP and am not an overclocker.
> David Miller of ColorVision has contacted me offline and is helping me get
> to the bottom of this crash issue.

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