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NEC Multisynch LCD2690WUXi

NEC Multisynch LCD2690WUXi

2007-08-31 by Rollin

I recently posted an item on the DPReview Forums asking about 
people's experience with the subject NEC monitor.  One question delt 
with the use of the Spyder2 colorimeter to profile the monitor.  
Below is the response that I received from a person associated with 
NEC.

David Tobie (or anyone else), any comments?

Rollin

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> First, I already own the Colorvision Spyder2 Pro package so am 
> looking at the BD version (basic) rather than the SV one that has 
> the Spectavision II software and the colorimeter puck. I have 
> managed to verify that I can purchase the Spectravision II software 
> separately > from NEC for $170 U.S. The specs for the version II of 
> the Spectravison indicate it does work with the Spyder2 puck. 

While the Spyder2 is supported by the SpectraView software, it is not 
actually recommended to use this device on the LCD2690 because of 
measurement errors due to the wide color gamut of this display. The 
preferred measurement device is the X-Rite iOne Display v2. 

-- 
Will Hollingworth 
Manager of OEM Product Design & Development Engineering 
NEC Display Solutions of America, Inc.

Re: NEC Multisynch LCD2690WUXi

2011-02-18 by aneifeld8929

--- In datacolor_group@yahoogroups.com, "Rollin" <rhill3@...> wrote:
>
> I recently posted an item on the DPReview Forums asking about 
> people's experience with the subject NEC monitor.  One question delt 
> with the use of the Spyder2 colorimeter to profile the monitor.  
> Below is the response that I received from a person associated with 
> NEC.
> 
> David Tobie (or anyone else), any comments?
> 
> Rollin
> 
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> > First, I already own the Colorvision Spyder2 Pro package so am 
> > looking at the BD version (basic) rather than the SV one that has 
> > the Spectavision II software and the colorimeter puck. I have 
> > managed to verify that I can purchase the Spectravision II software 
> > separately > from NEC for $170 U.S. The specs for the version II of 
> > the Spectravison indicate it does work with the Spyder2 puck. 
> 
> While the Spyder2 is supported by the SpectraView software, it is not 
> actually recommended to use this device on the LCD2690 because of 
> measurement errors due to the wide color gamut of this display. The 
> preferred measurement device is the X-Rite iOne Display v2. 
> 
> -- 
> Will Hollingworth 
> Manager of OEM Product Design & Development Engineering 
> NEC Display Solutions of America, Inc.
>
I am planning to buy the NEC LCD2490WUXi2-BK monitor and have a Spyder3Elite package. Will the puck in the Spyder3 package work with the NEC SpectraVision II software?

Re: [datacolor_group] Re: NEC Multisynch LCD2690WUXi

2011-02-18 by C D Tobie

Yes, we know Will, and have been communicating with him on the subject of NECs opinions about calibrators. First off, I'll agree with him that a Spyder2, now about five years outdated, is not a good choice for calibrating a wide gamut LCD. Neither is a Display1, a Huey, or other older devices. 

Beyond that it gets trickier. Recent Spyder3s, when tested on the NEC and similar wide gamut displays, do an excellent job; in fact our testing shows them to be better than any other consumer colorimeter. The older testing that NEC is basing their opinions on did not give the same results, so we are encouraging them to do more updated testing. 

Another factor is that our testing is with our own software; NEC wants to apply second level calibration functions for each type of colorimeter in their software, so consistency within a device model over the entire model lifetime is actually more important to that technique than individual device accuracy. Spyder3s have been improved incrementally over time, so one set of "corrections" for the entire model line will not offer consistent results with different versions of different ages. 

So at the moment, I would have to recommend using Datacolor's software with a recent Spyder3 as the colorimeter combination that will produce the most accurate results. We will work with NEC to see what we can do to satisfy their expectations, but at the moment the methodology in their software is not a particularly good fit for our device. 

C. David Tobie
Global Product Technology Manager
Imaging Color Solutions
Datacolor inc. 
cdtobie@...
www.datacolor.com
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On Feb 17, 2011, at 10:01 PM, "aneifeld8929" <aneifeld@...> wrote:

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> --- In datacolor_group@yahoogroups.com, "Rollin" <rhill3@...> wrote:
>> 
>> I recently posted an item on the DPReview Forums asking about 
>> people's experience with the subject NEC monitor.  One question delt 
>> with the use of the Spyder2 colorimeter to profile the monitor.  
>> Below is the response that I received from a person associated with 
>> NEC.
>> 
>> David Tobie (or anyone else), any comments?
>> 
>> Rollin
>> 
>> ---------------------------
>>> First, I already own the Colorvision Spyder2 Pro package so am 
>>> looking at the BD version (basic) rather than the SV one that has 
>>> the Spectavision II software and the colorimeter puck. I have 
>>> managed to verify that I can purchase the Spectravision II software 
>>> separately > from NEC for $170 U.S. The specs for the version II of 
>>> the Spectravison indicate it does work with the Spyder2 puck. 
>> 
>> While the Spyder2 is supported by the SpectraView software, it is not 
>> actually recommended to use this device on the LCD2690 because of 
>> measurement errors due to the wide color gamut of this display. The 
>> preferred measurement device is the X-Rite iOne Display v2. 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Will Hollingworth 
>> Manager of OEM Product Design & Development Engineering 
>> NEC Display Solutions of America, Inc.
>> 
> I am planning to buy the NEC LCD2490WUXi2-BK monitor and have a Spyder3Elite package. Will the puck in the Spyder3 package work with the NEC SpectraVision II software?
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RE: [datacolor_group] Re: NEC Multisynch LCD2690WUXi

2011-02-18 by AlanNeifeld

Many thanks for your fast reply and the very positive position that both NEC
and you (Datacolor) are taking re the Spyder3 puck.

 

I have been very pleased with the Spyder3Elite results on my 6 year old
Samsung 930b monitor, but the Samsung monitor has gone beyond its use for my
work (other than that of being used to show the Photoshop control tools or
other non color critical work.)

 

Alan Neifeld

8929 Windjammer Drive

Raleigh, NC  27615-1829

mailto:aneifeld@...

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From: datacolor_group@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:datacolor_group@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of C D Tobie
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 8:15 AM
To: datacolor_group@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [datacolor_group] Re: NEC Multisynch LCD2690WUXi

 

  

Yes, we know Will, and have been communicating with him on the subject of
NECs opinions about calibrators. First off, I'll agree with him that a
Spyder2, now about five years outdated, is not a good choice for calibrating
a wide gamut LCD. Neither is a Display1, a Huey, or other older devices. 

Beyond that it gets trickier. Recent Spyder3s, when tested on the NEC and
similar wide gamut displays, do an excellent job; in fact our testing shows
them to be better than any other consumer colorimeter. The older testing
that NEC is basing their opinions on did not give the same results, so we
are encouraging them to do more updated testing. 

Another factor is that our testing is with our own software; NEC wants to
apply second level calibration functions for each type of colorimeter in
their software, so consistency within a device model over the entire model
lifetime is actually more important to that technique than individual device
accuracy. Spyder3s have been improved incrementally over time, so one set of
"corrections" for the entire model line will not offer consistent results
with different versions of different ages. 

So at the moment, I would have to recommend using Datacolor's software with
a recent Spyder3 as the colorimeter combination that will produce the most
accurate results. We will work with NEC to see what we can do to satisfy
their expectations, but at the moment the methodology in their software is
not a particularly good fit for our device. 

C. David Tobie
Global Product Technology Manager
Imaging Color Solutions
Datacolor inc. 
cdtobie@... <mailto:cdtobie%40datacolor.com> 
www.datacolor.com

On Feb 17, 2011, at 10:01 PM, "aneifeld8929" <aneifeld@...
<mailto:aneifeld%40nc.rr.com> > wrote:

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> --- In datacolor_group@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:datacolor_group%40yahoogroups.com> , "Rollin" <rhill3@...> wrote:
>> 
>> I recently posted an item on the DPReview Forums asking about 
>> people's experience with the subject NEC monitor. One question delt 
>> with the use of the Spyder2 colorimeter to profile the monitor. 
>> Below is the response that I received from a person associated with 
>> NEC.
>> 
>> David Tobie (or anyone else), any comments?
>> 
>> Rollin
>> 
>> ---------------------------
>>> First, I already own the Colorvision Spyder2 Pro package so am 
>>> looking at the BD version (basic) rather than the SV one that has 
>>> the Spectavision II software and the colorimeter puck. I have 
>>> managed to verify that I can purchase the Spectravision II software 
>>> separately > from NEC for $170 U.S. The specs for the version II of 
>>> the Spectravison indicate it does work with the Spyder2 puck. 
>> 
>> While the Spyder2 is supported by the SpectraView software, it is not 
>> actually recommended to use this device on the LCD2690 because of 
>> measurement errors due to the wide color gamut of this display. The 
>> preferred measurement device is the X-Rite iOne Display v2. 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Will Hollingworth 
>> Manager of OEM Product Design & Development Engineering 
>> NEC Display Solutions of America, Inc.
>> 
> I am planning to buy the NEC LCD2490WUXi2-BK monitor and have a
Spyder3Elite package. Will the puck in the Spyder3 package work with the NEC
SpectraVision II software?
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