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Placements of .icm files from PrintFixPro

Placements of .icm files from PrintFixPro

2006-03-09 by Johnny Eades

Hello folks,

I'm still learning the ins and outs of PFP and am thoroughly pleased
with the rapid progress I'm able to make into the world of color,
after the BW world for 40 years. I do have one point to inquire about;
and this is not meant as a criticism of the fine work done for PFP,
but is there anyone but me that has had to copy and paste the
resulting .icm printer profile to the proper places for Windows XP and
Photoshop to display them where needed? For example, to use soft proof
I had to copy the profile to another folder; and the same for the
printer profile also to be used tor print from Photoshop. This is not
a major point with me, but others who may be just coming to the
digital lightroom may have some difficulty understanding the ins and
outs of it. Would it be too difficult to include this copying and
pasting within the program itself. Maybe the next beta might just
include this, for I'm sure I'm not the only one who has seen this.

Your friend in Photography,

Johnny

Re: Placements of .icm files from PrintFixPro

2006-03-09 by Tom

--- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, "Johnny Eades" <jeades1@...>
wrote:
>
> Hello folks,
> 
> I'm still learning the ins and outs of PFP and am thoroughly pleased
> with the rapid progress I'm able to make into the world of color,
> after the BW world for 40 years. I do have one point to inquire about;
> and this is not meant as a criticism of the fine work done for PFP,
> but is there anyone but me that has had to copy and paste the
> resulting .icm printer profile to the proper places for Windows XP and
> Photoshop to display them where needed? For example, to use soft proof
> I had to copy the profile to another folder; and the same for the
> printer profile also to be used tor print from Photoshop. This is not
> a major point with me, but others who may be just coming to the
> digital lightroom may have some difficulty understanding the ins and
> outs of it. Would it be too difficult to include this copying and
> pasting within the program itself. Maybe the next beta might just
> include this, for I'm sure I'm not the only one who has seen this.
> 
> Your friend in Photography,
> 
> Johnny
>


Its in the right folder already for me.

Re: [colorvision_group] Placements of .icm files from PrintFixPro

2006-03-10 by CDTobie@aol.com


In a message dated 3/9/06 6:24:07 PM, jeades1@... writes:


I'm still learning the ins and outs of PFP and am thoroughly pleased
with the rapid progress I'm able to make into the world of color,
after the BW world for 40 years. I do have one point to inquire about;
and this is not meant as a criticism of the fine work done for PFP,
but is there anyone but me that has had to copy and paste the
resulting .icm printer profile to the proper places for Windows XP and
Photoshop to display them where needed? For example, to use soft proof
I had to copy the profile to another folder; and the same for the
printer profile also to be used tor print from Photoshop.

Is there something unusual about your drive configurations? As the help notes, the profiles are placed in the standard color folder for Win2000 and XP, and that should be all thats needed; certainly none of the hundreds of Windows-based users so far have commented on it not putting them in the right place!

With Photoshop, you do need to force the application to refresh its list of profiles, which can be done by quitting and restarting Photoshop, but I just go to ProofSetUp > Custom, which forces a refresh of the list, before printing.

C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
ColorVision Business Unit
Datacolor Inc.
CDTobie@...

www.colorvision.com

Re: Placements of .icm files from PrintFixPro

2006-03-10 by Johnny Eades

Hello folks,

I had to copy the profile in the case of choosing it for a soft proof
from within Photoshop. I was moving many files around so this
recollection may be flawed. If so, I apologize for any contribution to
anyones confusion. There is one thing I would like to ask help on in
regards to color cast to the finished print. My prints all have a
marked yellow cast to the overall image. Can any suggestions be made
for a quick, down, and dirty way of making the correction needed
without having to go throudh a complete reprofile of paper/printer/ink
combination?

Your friend in Photography,

Johnny


--- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, CDTobie@... wrote:
>
> 
> In a message dated 3/9/06 6:24:07 PM, jeades1@... writes:
> 
> 
> > I'm still learning the ins and outs of PFP and am thoroughly pleased
> > with the rapid progress I'm able to make into the world of color,
> > after the BW world for 40 years. I do have one point to inquire about;
> > and this is not meant as a criticism of the fine work done for PFP,
> > but is there anyone but me that has had to copy and paste the
> > resulting .icm printer profile to the proper places for Windows XP and
> > Photoshop to display them where needed? For example, to use soft proof
> > I had to copy the profile to another folder; and the same for the
> > printer profile also to be used tor print from Photoshop.
> > 
> Is there something unusual about your drive configurations? As the help 
> notes, the profiles are placed in the standard color folder for
Win2000 and XP, and 
> that should be all thats needed; certainly none of the hundreds of 
> Windows-based users so far have commented on it not putting them in
the right place!
> 
> With Photoshop, you do need to force the application to refresh its
list of 
> profiles, which can be done by quitting and restarting Photoshop,
but I just go 
> to ProofSetUp > Custom, which forces a refresh of the list, before
printing.
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> 
> C. David Tobie
> Product Technology Manager
> ColorVision Business Unit
> Datacolor Inc.
> CDTobie@...
> www.colorvision.com
>

Re: [colorvision_group] Re: Placements of .icm files from PrintFixPro

2006-03-10 by CDTobie@aol.com


In a message dated 3/10/06 3:45:57 PM, jeades1@... writes:


My prints all have a
marked yellow cast to the overall image. Can any suggestions be made
for a quick, down, and dirty way of making the correction needed
without having to go throudh a complete reprofile of paper/printer/ink
combination?

First, consider whether you are viewing under Incandescent light, which can cause inkjet prints to have a warm glow. But whether or not that is the cause, you would want to select your measurement file (no need to remeasure it) and then make color slider adjustments (a yellow reduction, by the sounds) build a new version (perhaps more than one, at various settings) and preview prints of each as you build them, until the test image looks good under the lighting you intend to display it under.

C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
ColorVision Business Unit
Datacolor Inc.
CDTobie@...

www.colorvision.com

Re: Placements of .icm files from PrintFixPro

2006-03-10 by Tom

--- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, CDTobie@... wrote:

> First, consider whether you are viewing under Incandescent light,
which can 
> cause inkjet prints to have a warm glow. But whether or not that is
the cause, 
> you would want to select your measurement file (no need to remeasure
it) and 
> then make color slider adjustments (a yellow reduction, by the
sounds) build a 
> new version (perhaps more than one, at various settings) and preview
prints of 
> each as you build them, until the test image looks good under the
lighting 
> you intend to display it under.

Would the ambient light correction feature of the new Spyder2PRO
mitigate that issue?  

I cheat and view my prints under a Lowel EGO.  Its a lot less
expensive than some of the dedicated viewing stations for sure.

Tom

Re: [colorvision_group] Re: Placements of .icm files from PrintFixPro

2006-03-10 by CDTobie@aol.com


In a message dated 3/10/06 4:11:20 PM, ttrostel@... writes:


Would the ambient light correction feature of the new Spyder2PRO
mitigate that issue?


It would assure that you are using appropriate monitor luminance and monitor whitepoint for your ambient light... but it won't (and shouldn't) match your monitor to metameric prints... what would happen then to well mannered prints?

I cheat and view my prints under a Lowel EGO. Its a lot less
expensive than some of the dedicated viewing stations for sure.

Nothing wrong with Ott-Lite or other such bulbs for general proofing; what matters is that your proofing light is bright enough to relate to your monitor... an old prepress box intended to use with a CRT at 80 candela is not going to be bright enough to match against an LCD at 200 candela... and you'll end up complaining that your prints are too dark; when its your proofing light thats actually "too dark"...


C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
ColorVision Business Unit
Datacolor Inc.
CDTobie@...

www.colorvision.com

Re: Placements of .icm files from PrintFixPro

2006-03-10 by Tom

--- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, "Johnny Eades" <jeades1@...>
wrote:

> There is one thing I would like to ask help on in
> regards to color cast to the finished print. My prints all have a
> marked yellow cast to the overall image. 

Johnny out of curiosity what printer and inkset are you using?

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