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Profiling question

2010-02-23 by Jim Miller

I spent the day trying to achieve a better match between printer and
monitor. I'm using S3Elite as part of S3Studio on Vista64 with two
Dell 2408WFP monitors. I'm printing on HP Glossy Advance Photo Paper
and viewing with Solux D50 lights. Room light is measured by the S3 as
"Moderately Low."

I created a pure white image and displayed it with Lightroom and
compared it to APP under the Solux lights. I found the 6500/2.2
monitor profile to be much bluer than the paper.

I tried profiling under 5800/2.2 and 5000/2.2 and found that while not
perfect the 5K/2.2 was quite close in presenting a "white" that
matched that of the paper.

Am I doing the right thing in pursuing this sort of match before
getting crazy on monitor/printing matching?

tnx
jtm

Re: [datacolor_group] Profiling question

2010-02-23 by Cdtobie

5000k is quite yellow for use with moderately dim ambient; 5800k would  
be a much more reasonable choice. Instead of hardwiring your display  
calibration to one particular paper, it's much more practical to use  
softproofing to emulate paper white for assorted media as needed. You  
can then tune the tint of the softproof white in your Syder3Print SR  
profiles, to optimize the match.

Unfortunately Lightroom does not offer softproofing; you would have to  
use Photoshop for that, until Lightroom corrects this omission.

C. D. Tobie
Global Product Technology Mngr.
Digital Imaging & Home Theater
Datacolor.com
CDTobie@...

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On Feb 22, 2010, at 5:24 PM, Jim Miller <jim@...> wrote:

> I spent the day trying to achieve a better match between printer and
> monitor. I'm using S3Elite as part of S3Studio on Vista64 with two
> Dell 2408WFP monitors. I'm printing on HP Glossy Advance Photo Paper
> and viewing with Solux D50 lights. Room light is measured by the S3 as
> "Moderately Low."
>
> I created a pure white image and displayed it with Lightroom and
> compared it to APP under the Solux lights. I found the 6500/2.2
> monitor profile to be much bluer than the paper.
>
> I tried profiling under 5800/2.2 and 5000/2.2 and found that while not
> perfect the 5K/2.2 was quite close in presenting a "white" that
> matched that of the paper.
>
> Am I doing the right thing in pursuing this sort of match before
> getting crazy on monitor/printing matching?
>
> tnx
> jtm
>
>
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>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Re: [datacolor_group] Profiling question

2010-02-23 by Jim Miller

CDT

Thanks for the info. 5K did seem a bit of a reach. 6hrs in a
"moderately dim" room today tuning settings wasn't my idea of a good
time.

LR is giving us fits with its printing foibles. I sure hope LR3 fixes
their printing issues. I tried printing the same image with the same
settings using LR2.6, PSCS4 and Qimage today using application managed
color and relative colorimetric intent. PS/Qimage were identical in
their output to my eyes, LR was an outlier.

More work tomorrow to try to track down the differences. We had LR and
PS printing identically a few months ago. No idea what changed.

jtm

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On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 9:12 PM, Cdtobie <CDTobie@...> wrote:
> 5000k is quite yellow for use with moderately dim ambient; 5800k would
> be a much more reasonable choice. Instead of hardwiring your display
> calibration to one particular paper, it's much more practical to use
> softproofing to emulate paper white for assorted media as needed. You
> can then tune the tint of the softproof white in your Syder3Print SR
> profiles, to optimize the match.
>
> Unfortunately Lightroom does not offer softproofing; you would have to
> use Photoshop for that, until Lightroom corrects this omission.
>
> C. D. Tobie
> Global Product Technology Mngr.
> Digital Imaging & Home Theater
> Datacolor.com
> CDTobie@...
>
> On Feb 22, 2010, at 5:24 PM, Jim Miller <jim@...> wrote:
>
>> I spent the day trying to achieve a better match between printer and
>> monitor. I'm using S3Elite as part of S3Studio on Vista64 with two
>> Dell 2408WFP monitors. I'm printing on HP Glossy Advance Photo Paper
>> and viewing with Solux D50 lights. Room light is measured by the S3 as
>> "Moderately Low."
>>
>> I created a pure white image and displayed it with Lightroom and
>> compared it to APP under the Solux lights. I found the 6500/2.2
>> monitor profile to be much bluer than the paper.
>>
>> I tried profiling under 5800/2.2 and 5000/2.2 and found that while not
>> perfect the 5K/2.2 was quite close in presenting a "white" that
>> matched that of the paper.
>>
>> Am I doing the right thing in pursuing this sort of match before
>> getting crazy on monitor/printing matching?
>>
>> tnx
>> jtm
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

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