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Hi there,

Thanks for your answer in another thread. 

This version of SpyderPrint is much easier to understand. Thanks for the update!

New question.

I built a profile for Epson Ultra Presentation Matte paper with the 720 colour/b&w targets. In Soft Proof, the on-screen represenation is flat, no contrast. The colors seem okay, no contrast compared to when Soft Proof box is un-ticked.

I notice in the supplied Epson profiles, that the ones for gloss or lustre papers are very good. However, the profile for the "matte" paper is the same as what I see on my screen. Flat, no contrast.

Fyi, when I print a file, the colours and contrast are okay.

Would you comment, please?

Regards, Paul.

>>I built a profile for Epson Ultra Presentation Matte paper with the  
720 colour/b&w targets. In Soft Proof, the on-screen represenation is  
flat, no contrast. The colors seem okay, no contrast compared to when  
Soft Proof box is un-ticked.

As you note this is true of canned matte profiles as well; but you can  
tune this in our custom profiles. It's due to multiple factors, but I  
think the one most noticable is the softproof black. It is being  
raised above absolute black, but on screen it's raised above screen  
black, which is not absolute.

So you can lower the L* value of the softproof black in our  
SpyderProof Edit screen, to get a tighter match. White can be tweaked  
as well.

C. D. Tobie
Global Product Technology Mngr.
Digital Imaging & Home Theater
Datacolor.com
CDTobie@...

On Feb 28, 2010, at 7:12 PM, "ve3bbh" <ve3bbh@...> wrote:

> I built a profile for Epson Ultra Presentation Matte paper with the  
> 720 colour/b&w targets. In Soft Proof, the on-screen represenation  
> is flat, no contrast. The colors seem okay, no contrast compared to  
> when Soft Proof box is un-ticked.

>
> .
>
> I built a profile for Epson Ultra Presentation Matte paper with the  
> 720 colour/b&w targets. In Soft Proof, the on-screen represenation  
> is flat, no contrast. The colors seem okay, no contrast compared to  
> when Soft Proof box is un-ticked.
>
> I notice in the supplied Epson profiles, that the ones for gloss or  
> lustre papers are very good. However, the profile for the "matte"  
> paper is the same as what I see on my screen. Flat, no contrast.
>
> Fyi, when I print a file, the colours and contrast are okay.
>
> Would you comment, please?
>
>
>
All profiles for matte paper (or canvas) will soft proof that way if  
the absolute lightness of the black ink, and shadows, is being shown.  
(matte simply measures that way, compared to glossy/luster)

In Photoshop, you can get the contrast in the softproof back by  
unchecking the "black ink simulation" checkbox in the View:Proof  
Setup:Custom dialog.

In Spyder3Print's softproof, there's currently no way to turn this  
off, which is why soft proofs for profiles on matte unavoidably look  
that way. Just ignore this and realize that it's because your  
profiling matte paper. Your prints will
be fine.

David Miller

--- In datacolor_group@yahoogroups.com, David Miller <dm2363@...> 
> All profiles for matte paper (or canvas) will soft proof that way if  
> the absolute lightness of the black ink, and shadows, is being shown.  
> (matte simply measures that way, compared to glossy/luster)
> 
> In Photoshop, you can get the contrast in the softproof back by  
> unchecking the "black ink simulation" checkbox in the View:Proof  
> Setup:Custom dialog.
> 
> In Spyder3Print's softproof, there's currently no way to turn this  
> off, which is why soft proofs for profiles on matte unavoidably look  
> that way. Just ignore this and realize that it's because your  
> profiling matte paper. Your prints will
> be fine.
> 
> David Miller
>

Thanks for the explanation, David. Much appreciated!

Regards, Paul.