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Shadow Detail in Test Prints

Shadow Detail in Test Prints

2013-02-14 by Mike

I am using Spyder 3 Print 4.0 and print with a Canon ipf8100. I am trying to profile Epson Premium Luster and I have printed the Media Setting Check print using the Special media types 1 thru 5 -5 being maximum laydown of ink-which use photo black ink.The gentleman in the bottom strip on the right looks too dark but I can`t see a difference between setting 1 and 5. Setting 5 puts down more ink than 1.When I print an image using a profile made with setting 3 for instance- aren`t shadow details defined by me in photoshop and not the profile anyway?

Re: [datacolor_group] Shadow Detail in Test Prints

2013-02-14 by C D Tobie


On Feb 14, 2013, at 9:19 AM, "Mike" <mikesellers@...> wrote:

I am using Spyder 3 Print 4.0 and print with a Canon ipf8100. I am trying to profile Epson Premium Luster and I have printed the Media Setting Check print using the Special media types 1 thru 5 -5 being maximum laydown of ink-which use photo black ink.The gentleman in the bottom strip on the right looks too dark but I can`t see a difference between setting 1 and 5. Setting 5 puts down more ink than 1.When I print an image using a profile made with setting 3 for instance- aren`t shadow details defined by me in photoshop and not the profile anyway?

The profile can only use the setting the printer provides. If it provides too much ink, you'll get over-inking problems despite the profile. And if it is ink starved, you will get weak blacks, regardless of the profile. In effect, the profile says "print 0, 0, 0 (black)", and the media setting defines what 0, 0, 0 means, be that too much ink, or too little. So its a cooperative venture to find the optimal media setting, plus the optimal profile on top of it.

C. David Tobie

Global Product Technology Manager



Datacolor
5 Princess Road

Lawrenceville, NJ 08648, USA

609.924.2189


Phone: 207.685.9248

Mobile: 207.312.0448

Fax: 207.685.4455

Skype: cdtobie


Re: [datacolor_group] Shadow Detail in Test Prints

2013-02-14 by James R. Holtzman

Wouldn't a good alternative be to not use the profile in the printer 
but have the
program doing the printing use the new profile?  In my case, I always 
print with
photoshop, so I have photoshop use its profile, the one that I 
created.  I realize
that not everybody uses photoshop though.

Jim H.

At 06:19 AM 2/14/2013, you wrote:
>I am using Spyder 3 Print 4.0 and print with a Canon ipf8100. I am 
>trying to profile Epson Premium Luster and I have printed the Media 
>Setting Check print using the Special media types 1 thru 5 -5 being 
>maximum laydown of ink-which use photo black ink.The gentleman in 
>the bottom strip on the right looks too dark but I can`t see a 
>difference between setting 1 and 5. Setting 5 puts down more ink 
>than 1.When I print an image using a profile made with setting 3 for 
>instance- aren`t shadow details defined by me in photoshop and not 
>the profile anyway?
>
>
>
>--

James R. Holtzman
Empirical Technology
Carmichael, CA  95608
(916) 487-9712
emptech@...
http://www.emp-tech.net

Re: [datacolor_group] Shadow Detail in Test Prints

2013-02-14 by C D Tobie

Sorry, but this is incomprehensible to me. Perhaps you could reword it with a few more references to what each item means, so that we could respond?

On Feb 14, 2013, at 1:47 PM, James R. Holtzman <emptech@...> wrote:

> Wouldn't a good alternative be to not use the profile in the printer 
> but have the
> program doing the printing use the new profile? In my case, I always 
> print with
> photoshop, so I have photoshop use its profile, the one that I 
> created. I realize
> that not everybody uses photoshop though.

C. David Tobie
Global Product Technology Manager

Datacolor
5 Princess Road
Lawrenceville, NJ 08648, USA
609.924.2189
www.datacolor.com

Phone: 207.685.9248
Mobile: 207.312.0448
Fax: 207.685.4455
Email:  cdtobie@datacolor.com
Skype: cdtobie

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