Disklavier

i uploaded the new version of the pedal modifier program do not use the link in the last e-mail because the name has changed. go to the download page of my site spencerserolls.com and find the On Off to Gradual Pedal converter program (New) actually, this link might work from e-mail but best to visit the download page instead.

On 2/19/2014 8:20 PM, Skanter123 wrote:

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Geoff, what is the exact name of Spencer's pedal program? I could not find it...

Sam

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On Feb 19, 2014, at 11:18 PM, Geoff Ward <gward1211@...> wrote:

Just following up on Spencer\u2019s comments about his program to apply up and down ramps to on-off pedal controllers. The program works best with type 0 midi files and it works well to remove pedal noise from my MKIV when playing low volume midi files. File of just piano music can be easily converted from type 1 to type 0 in a program like Cakewalk, or Spencer also has a program to do it.

(Spencer, the pedal modifier program on your website is not the latest \u2013 the latest version displays parameters for both sustain and soft pedals).

If someone wants to use this program, I have worked out the settings which give good results for my MKIV. If anyone wants them, please let me know.

Kind regards

Geoff Ward

From: disklavier@yahoogroups.com [mailto:disklavier@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Spencer Chase
Sent: Wednesday, 19 February 2014 4:23 AM
To: disklavier@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [disklavier] DKV volume

my computer is screwing up after that last win8 update. not sure how much i can do while traveling. hope it recovers. it looks like the most recent version of on off to gradual pedaling is on the download page of my web site. Geoff reads this list. he recently had some "problems" with the program but it turned out to be misunderstanding of what it could do. he remembers better than i so can probably answer questions. i know he has successfully used it to reduce both soft and sustain pedal noise. be sure to use the on off to gradual, not the reverse. the program has to interpolate ramped controllers. it does the best it can but you have to choose settings for some strange files??? probably best to use the default settings until you figure out something better.

http://spencerserolls.com/Files4Download.html

On 2/18/2014 9:10 AM, Skanter123 wrote:

Thanks Spence - I would be interested...

Sam

www.keyboardcollective.com

(212) 684-3304

On Feb 18, 2014, at 11:13 AM, Spencer Chase <lists@...> wrote:

about pedals, i have a program that interpolates progressive pedaling in to MIDI files. not sure if i put it on my web site or not. i recently went through testing with Geoff Ward and i believe we found the program to do what it should. it definitely reduces pedal noise. i am really busy right now getting ready for a trip but will probably be stuck in the airport for hours later today (weather) and can make sure a working version is posted to my server.

if anyone is interested, let me know. i have a lot to do so will not bother unless people want it.

On 2/18/2014 12:01 AM, Skanter123 wrote:

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Sorry about that. I mis-read your question. George will need to respond on your Controller 7 question about how it affects the Disklavier. I just know that Controller 7 is set to 100 at the beginning of Yamaha PianoSoft Disklavier files.

Hmmm...I'm wondering how MIDI volume (controller 7) can affect an acoustic piano. It seems the only way to affect volume on a DKV is by velocity or soft pedal (bringing hammers closer),

I have not seen any sort of volume control curve for Disklavier.

Noisy pedals - This is usually the result of playing MIDI files that have ON/OFF pedaling, instead of incremental pedaling. During playback, ON/OFF pedaling goes from full OFF to full ON and then back to full OFF. This is much noiser (and much less musical) than incremental pedaling. I imagine that when you record on your Disklavier, the playback of the pedals is much better, right?

Yes! This makes sense. Â I wonder if there is a simple way to control this when playing MIDI files that only have ON/OFF? Probably some utility somewhere...

Thanks again!

Bill

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Subject: Re: [disklavier] DKV volume

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On Feb 18, 2014, at 1:36 AM, Bill Brandom <billbrando@...>

Bill, thanks for your detailed reply. I'm still confused about a few things, though.

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You stated that you are reducing MIDI velocities and not hearing a difference on the Disklavier. My guess is that your music must be playing pretty softly and the Disklavier will not attempt to play it any softer, even with the velocities reduced. Just to confirm that your velocity changes are or are not working, take a very high velocity note and reduce its velocity considerably and see if the Disklavier plays it back considerable softer.

I said that lowering MIDI VOLUME (not velocity) produced no affect. I'm not sure how changing MIDI volume (controller #7) affects the DKV if at all. Is it supposed to?

The built in volume control on the Disklavier compresses the playback, reducing the highest velocity notes much more than the lower velocity notes. On your MPX100II, at a certain volume level (I think -7, the hammer rest rail of your piano moves the hammers much closer to the strings, thereby making the piano play much so (Message over 64 KB, truncated)