Disklavier

It certainly does not offend me to not upload classical music (especially
opera which is a minority orphan of the music world).  But per chance that
there is any other lurkers out there that are in my catagory, feel free to
email me directly at
Buffy@...


----- Original Message -----
From: Todd Muncy <tmuncy@...>
To: <disklavier@egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 10:56 AM
Subject: [disklavier] Re: Rules of Etiquette and Use of Yamaha in
Conservatories and Colleges


> Well said Buffy, I knew you were a class act.
>
> To Joe,
> You're right.  Volume control is an extremely hot issue, for a small
number
> of people.  The activity on the DUG board proves it.  Yes, I'm tired of
the
> volume control issue and made a humorous (most people say) remark about
how
> fatuous (look it up) the conversation had become.  It would shock and
dismay
> me to know that anyone misinterpreted my comment to be a true effort at
> censoring conversation.  Have you lost all sense of humor?  Why are you so
> mad and why are you mad at me or this group?   I feel compelled (happens a
> lot) to point out a few things 96% of the group is already aware of:
>
> 1. I don't work for Yamaha
> 2. I don't get anything out of this site except a chance to meet mostly
> great people and swap stuff.
> 3. It's a pretty thankless job, cheerleading a large group of people, too
> many of whom take, but don't give to the group.
> 4. I haven't replaced DUG and forced your amazing anger toward Yamaha
> through a new censored channel.  Speaking of censorship, start talking
price
> and service (more important to many than volume) on the DUG channel and
see
> what happens.
> 5. DUG is still there and virtually all our members are members of DUG and
> will receive any and all rantings and ravings about volume you send there.
> I read all of them, regardless of subject line.  But I can read all of
this
> group's mail first and put the DUG stuff off until I'm done with important
> stuff like clipping my toenails.
> 6. The idea of different groups is different interests.  We are interested
> in swapping non-classical music.  Should I expect all caps rants from
> classical music lovers who feel left out.
>
> I have a very elegant and totally democratic solution for you.  Go to
> www.egroups.com and start a new group (took me 8 minutes when I did it).
> Suggested name: DkVolume@egroups.com  then send a posting here and to DUG
> announcing the group.  I'll be happy to join and post long dissertations
on
> the situation in Bosnia, in the interest of free speech and democratic
> principles.  If you just complain about the well-intentioned efforts of
> others, and don't take positive action, how can we take you seriously?
>
> The strongest way to state your obvious displeasure with me or the group
is
> to send an e-mail to disklavier-unsubsribe@egroups.com  .  Not one person
> has done that yet and I would certainly take notice if they did.
>
> Apologies for wasting the time of 96% of you!
>
> P.S.
> If you take my attitude to be arrogant, obnoxious, self-serving and very
> sarcastic, you are now aware of something everyone else already knows.  As
> Popeye once said:  I yam what I yam.  Some people enjoy, many probably
> don't, but most like the group and no one is forced to listen.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Taxi <buffy@...>
> To: disklavier@egroups.com <disklavier@egroups.com>
> Date: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 9:39 AM
> Subject: [disklavier] Re: Rules of Etiquette and Use of Yamaha in
> Conservatories and Colleges
>
>
> >I guess you are shouting because you are in all caps.  You sound pretty
> >angry.
> >
> >I enjoy using this list regardless of the type of mail it is.  I believe
> the
> >purpose of most email lists is to be able to discuss any topic that
> pertains
> >to the group type.  One of the most important etiquette rules of most
lists
> >is to put the subject of your email in the space indicated for subject.
> >That way if you don't wish to read the email, then you can delete it.
> >
> >Limiting any subject tends to surpress, and then eventually turn the
member
> >off to any response.
> >
> >I subscribe to several lists and if I want to read the mail because of
the
> >subject I do, if not I just delete it.
> >
> >Joe, it is very difficult to read mail that is in all caps.  I use to do
it
> >until someone pointed out that rules of etiquette for writing say that
> >unless you are absolutely angry as hell, don't type in all caps. I am
very
> >interested in (so far) in all the mail coming from this list, as it is
very
> >informative.  I think your point is well taken (although I could do
without
> >the shouting!).  I hope that we will all realize that this a place that
we
> >can all learn a great deal from, as well as a place to voice our
> complaints.
> >I think it is rather calous of Yamaha to take the view that they have
taken
> >on volume.
> >
> >New Subject: Use of Yamaha in Music Education
> >
> >Does anyone in the group know of schools or colleges using the Yamaha for
> >rehearsal purposes or for teaching?
> >
> >I do not have much to contribute because I basically use my piano for
Opera
> >and Lieder rehearsal only.  If there are any members that are interested
in
> >the files that I have converted to ESQ for Opera or Lieder (specifically
> for
> >Soprano) then please email me privately.  I will be glad to upload these
> >midi files if there is any interest.
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Joe Arnold <ujarnold@...>
> >To: <disklavier@...>
> >Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 9:20 AM
> >Subject: [disklavier] Re: No Subject
> >
> >
> >> I AM GLAD TO HEAR THAT WHAT EVER YOUR PERCEIVED INTERESTS
> >> ARE ( YAWN ), THAT THE OTHER USERS WILL FIND THEM MORE INTERESTING
> >> THAN THE VOLUME DISCUSSION.
> >>
> >> IT SEEMS ME  THAT THE VOLUME OF E-MAILS ON THIS SUBJECT SPEAKS FOR
> ITSELF.
> >> FOR YOU AND OTHERS WANT TO PRETEND THAT IT IS A NON-ISSUE
> >> AMOUNTS  TO TELLING THOSE OF US W/ THE CONCERN TO BUZZ OFF.
> >>
> >> OBVIOUSLY YAMAHA HASN'T FIGURED OUT A GOOD SOLUTION AND IF YOU WERE
> >READING
> >> THE
> >> CORRESPONDENCE CAREFULLY, YOU WOULD REALIZE, THAT SOME INDIVIDUALS
> >> THAT HAVE OWNED DIFFERENT MODELS OR DIFFERENT GENERATIONS
> >> OF YAMAHA PIANO'S WITH DISKLAVIER  ELECTRONICS HAVE NOTICED
> >> EXCESSIVE DIFFERENCES IN THE VOLUME ASSOCIATED WITH THE ELECTRONICS.
> >> ON PERSON FOUND THAT THE CHANGE FROM A LARGE GRAND TO A SMALLER
> >> GRAND W/ NEWER ELECTRONICS CAME WITH SUBSTANTIALLY LOUDER VOLUME AT
> >>  LOWER LISTENING LEVELS !
> >>
> >> I RESENT THIS PUREST ATTITUDE THAT SEEMS TO EXIST AND ACCEPTS THIS WITH
A
> >MY
> >> GOSH, THIS
> >> IS A GRAND PIANO, WHAT DO YOU EXPECT ATTITUDE. WHAT I EXPECT IS THAT
THE
> >> ELECTRONICS OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THE PIANO PLAY AS SOFTLY
> >> AS IF A PERSON WERE AT THE PIANO. !!!
> >>
> >> JOE
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Marie Jeffries <smram@...>
> >> To: <disklavier@...>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 8:07 AM
> >> Subject: [disklavier] No Subject
> >>
> >>
> >> > I'm brand new to both the DUG and this group, since I just bought my
> >> > piano/Disklavier two weeks ago.  Glad to find all these friendly
people
> >> > out there.  Also glad to find volume discussions are BANNED from this
> >> > one!  [YAWN]  Re the guy from Yamaha, in one of the DUG messages that
> >> > he sent accidentally to someone, he didn't recommend the person
buying
> >> > some extra memory or add-on because it was so enormously overpriced,
> >> > and he was honest enough to say that to the guy (and unknowingly to
> >> > everone).  I'm sure Yamaha's "DUG monitors" slapped him around for
that
> >> > one.  But if he's honest, I definitely say "let him in".
> >> >
> >> > Also, re uploading - I have no collection of favorite disks laying on
> >> > my piano YET since I'm still trying to figure out what buttons do
what,
> >> > but in time, my friends . . .
> >> >
> >> > Marie
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
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