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Re: Transferring files from PC to DKC110R and back

2004-11-09 by terryl212

Thanks for the help from both of you.  I was able to download and 
play files from this site thanks to your guidance.  

One odd item.  I could only create usable diskettes from new 
preformatted diskettes, i.e. came that way from manufacturer.  
Diskettes formatted in the DKC100R were not readable by the PC even 
with the EEXPLORE.EXE program provided in the dkvutils.zip file.  I 
tried reformatting DKC100R formatted diskettes, however Windows XP 
Pro only allows me to format 1.44 MB diskettes, even though I 
inserted the old DD diskette.  The net result is that once I've 
formatted the diskette with the Disklavier, it is no longer readable 
by the PC.  

If anyone knows the number of tracks, sectors and bytes per cluster 
I might be able to re-format a 720kb floppy using the old DOS format 
command.

Maybe I need an older version of Windows

Any ideas?

Thanks for the help.



--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, PianoBench@a... wrote:
> Good evening, everyone.
> 
> Robert's reply needs additional explanation, I think.
> 
> Yamaha's published disks are definitely different from the normal 
PC format. 
> I am not 100% certain of the technical distinction, but I believe 
that they 
> are missing a boot sector. That means that you cannot read Yamaha-
published 
> disks on a computer unless you have special software for this 
purpose, such as the 
> Geibler Utility. In no case are these disks readable on a 
Macintosh.
> 
> I don't know whether there is any technical distinction between a 
disk that 
> is formatted in the Disklavier vs. a pre-formatted PC disk vs. a 
disk formatted 
> on a Windows computer (or on a Mac using the PC format). 
Regardless, all of 
> these disks ARE readable by the Disklavier.
> 
> A DC6 with a DKC100R control unit is a Mark II series Disklavier. 
I can only 
> read the double-density (DD) disk format.
> 
> Assuming that you format DD disks in your Disklavier, purchase pre-
formatted 
> DD disks, or properly format them in a PC, you are fine. You can 
easily go 
> back and forth between computer and PC. If, however, you 
incorrectly format a DD 
> disk as an HD disk on a PC or you format an HD disk on the 
Disklavier (which 
> results in a DD format), then things don't work out right.
> 
> The last thing to know is this: although you can transfer files 
back and 
> forth between computer and Disklavier, the files that you record 
on the Disklavier 
> will be in E-SEQ format. Since there are few if any E-SEQ playback 
or editing 
> programs for PC, there is not much that you can do with these 
files on the PC 
> unless you convert them using the Geibler utilities.
> 
> On the other hand, if you record directly into your computer and 
save the 
> resulting files as Standard MIDI File (SMF) Type 0 or if you 
acquire SMFs of Type 
> 0 from other sources, you can copy them to a DD disk for playback 
in your 
> Disklavier--assuming that your Disklavier has the firmware update 
that provides 
> limited support for SMF Type 0. NOTE: Avoid putting both E-SEQ and 
SMFs on the 
> same disk with this Disklavier.
> 
> IMHO, your life will be much easier if you add a Yamaha DSR1 to 
your 
> Disklavier, thus providing it with full SMF support, HD support, 
and an internal tone 
> generator.
> 
> Regards,
> PianoBench
> 
> In a message dated 11/8/04 5:55:10 PM, rwelcyng@a... writes:
> 
> 
> > 
> > The Disklavier's diskette format is different from a PC's.  To a 
PC, a
> > Disklavier-formatted diskette appears to be in need of 
formatting.
> > Don't do it of course!
> > 
> > I use and recommend the Geibler Utility (www.giebler.com) Yamaha 
Disk
> > Manager (which runs under DOS).  Other folks use the DKVUtils 
available
> > for downloading on this site.
> > 
> > terryl212 wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a DC6 with a DKC100R.  The DKC100R diskette format 
appears to
> > > be different from my PC's diskette format.  Does anyone know 
if it's
> > > possible to transfer files to & from the PC to the DKC100R via
> > > diskette.  If not, can it be done some other way (e.g. cable)?
> > >
> > > Any help is appreciated.
> > >
> > > Thanks, Terry
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