Disklavier

A discussion for the newbies...

I purchased a used DC3A Wagon model built in 1992 (I think).  Great
condition a truly great piano.

 I then searched the internet and found a deal on a used DSR1 which I
married to an old stereo receiver and speakers.  This brought the world of
midi (XG and normal) as well as HD disks.

I then took an older laptop computer with Cakewalk and the great yamplayer
software (thanks DC) which allows me to play the piano directly from my PC.

I now have thousands of midi files organized on the PC (principally
collected from the web) that I can play without ever touching a disk. (I am
of course backed up on CD) I have also networked the computer so when the
kids say "do you have a song I know", I can immediately find it using a
midi search on the web and download it, may convert slightly in Cakewalk
and then play it in minutes.   I also find myself looking on-line for
lyrics on songs and viewing them on the computer as the song plays.

Next I hope to find the perfect Karaoke player that will Include the lyrics
of the songs as well as a midi driver out.

Looking at the new Disklavier, I am not all that jealous.  I am very happy
with the upgradability and flexibility and price of the older model.

Ideas are always welcome.

Cheers

Dan O'Connor





                                                                           
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Good evening, everyone.

Robert's reply needs additional explanation, I think.

Yamaha's published disks are definitely different from the normal PC
format. I am not 100% certain of the technical distinction, but I believe
that they are missing a boot sector. That means that you cannot read
Yamaha-published disks on a computer unless you have special software for
this purpose, such as the Geibler Utility. In no case are these disks
readable on a Macintosh.

I don't know whether there is any technical distinction between a disk that
is formatted in the Disklavier vs. a pre-formatted PC disk vs. a disk
formatted on a Windows computer (or on a Mac using the PC format).
Regardless, all of these disks ARE readable by the Disklavier.

A DC6 with a DKC100R control unit is a Mark II series Disklavier. I can
only read the double-density (DD) disk format.

Assuming that you format DD disks in your Disklavier, purchase
pre-formatted DD disks, or properly format them in a PC, you are fine. You
can easily go back and forth between computer and PC. If, however, you
incorrectly format a DD disk as an HD disk on a PC or you format an HD disk
on the Disklavier (which results in a DD format), then things don't work
out right.

The last thing to know is this: although you can transfer files back and
forth between computer and Disklavier, the files that you record on the
Disklavier will be in E-SEQ format. Since there are few if any E-SEQ
playback or editing programs for PC, there is not much that you can do with
these files on the PC unless you convert them using the Geibler utilities.

On the other hand, if you record directly into your computer and save the
resulting files as Standard MIDI File (SMF) Type 0 or if you acquire SMFs
of Type 0 from other sources, you can copy them to a DD disk for playback
in your Disklavier--assuming that your Disklavier has the firmware update
that provides limited support for SMF Type 0. NOTE: Avoid putting both
E-SEQ and SMFs on the same disk with this Disklavier.

IMHO, your life will be much easier if you add a Yamaha DSR1 to your
Disklavier, thus providing it with full SMF support, HD support, and an
internal tone generator.

Regards,
PianoBench

In a message dated 11/8/04 5:55:10 PM, rwelcyng@... writes:



 The Disklavier's diskette format is different from a PC's.  To a PC, a
 Disklavier-formatted diskette appears to be in need of formatting.
 Don't do it of course!

 I use and recommend the Geibler Utility (www.giebler.com) Yamaha Disk
 Manager (which runs under DOS).  Other folks use the DKVUtils available
 for downloading on this site.

 terryl212 wrote:
 >
 > I have a DC6 with a DKC100R.  The DKC100R diskette format appears to
 > be different from my PC's diskette format.  Does anyone know if it's
 > possible to transfer files to & from the PC to the DKC100R via
 > diskette.  If not, can it be done some other way (e.g. cable)?
 >
 > Any help is appreciated.
 >
 > Thanks, Terry
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 > Todd's family web site was completely updated 012/22/03.  It contains
 some fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among many other
 things, The url is:
 > http://MuncyFamily.com
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 Robert Welcyng
 Anchorage, Alaska





 To Post a message to the group, send it to:   disklavier@...

 To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and
 moderator, send it to:
 disklavier-owner@...

 To reach our group's web site go to:
 http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier

 Todd's family web site was completely updated 012/22/03.  It contains some
 fun disklavier content and links to midi sites among many other things,
 The url is:
 http://MuncyFamily.com

 THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP?
 If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too much mail,
 go the the web site and change your email delivery option instead.  That
 will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the group.  If you
 insist on leaving us completely send a blank email to:
 disklavier-unsubscribe@...

 Know someone who wants to join?  Have them send a blank email to:
 disklavier-subscribe@eGroups.com or give them this link:
 http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join

 Yahoo! Groups Links