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Re: [disklavier] Re: Velocity or Volume?...I must stop the pounding! GNMIDI

2007-01-18 by John Isella

Does this "loud" controller 7 value characteristic apply to MIDI  
files that have been recorded on a Disklavier as well if unaltered by  
anyone?

Thanks, John


On Jan 18, 2007, at 12:04 AM, George F. Litterst wrote:

> Good evening, everyone.
>
> Regarding the message below from yadidisklavier:
>
> We are talking about 2 completely different volume control issues:
>
> (1) It is true that you can reduce the volume of the piano using the
> control unit or the remote control for your Disklavier. Internally,
> the instrument reduces the hammer velocities little by little as you
> reduce the volume setting. At some point, it engages the left pedal
> which moves the hammers closer to the strings thus reducing the
> hammer velocities even further.
>
> (2) In my post, I was refering to a MIDI message in the the file
> itself called "controller 7" or "volume." The possible value ranges
> for this message are 0 to 127. The normal setting for this parameter
> is 100 for a Disklavier piano. Early Disklaviers (I think Mark II and
> before) paid no attention to this message.
>
> Your instrument is actually a Mark IIXG and it does pay attention to
> the controller 7 MIDI message. However, you will not be able to
> change the controller 7 value without editing the file itself.
>
> Regrettably, many MIDI files found on the Internet have the
> controller 7 value set rather high. In addition, the note-on
> velocities may be quite high. The result is that the file is much too
> loud when played on the Disklavier.
>
> Regards,
> PianoBench
>
>
> On Jan 17, 2007, at 6:17 PM, yadidisklavier wrote:
>
>> My Mark II responds to volume with the dampening pedal (far left).
>> Is this going to have a different effect than velocity message? I'm
>> afraid this is a whole new can of worms for me.
>>
>> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "George F. Litterst"
>> <PianoBench@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> Good afternoon, everyone.
>>>
>>> If memory serves me correctly, the Mark II does not respond to
>> volume
>>> control (controller 7) messages. It does, of course, respond to
>> note-
>>> on velocity messages.
>>>
>>> I think that controller 7 was first implemented in the Mark IIXG.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> PianoBench
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 16, 2007, at 5:06 PM, James Fry wrote:
>>>
>>>> I haven't used this tool, but I suspect you want to reduce the
>>>> velocities, as this is the individual note loudness. I would
>> expect
>>>> the
>>>> volume control to insert controller 7 messages, which I think
>> will
>>>> have
>>>> the same effect as adjusting the volume control on the piano
>> control
>>>> unit (on my MPX1Z Mark II this puts the "soft" pedal down)
>>>>
>>>> Give it a try and see what happens I guess!
>>>>
>>>> James
>>>>
>>>> yadidisklavier wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I know that this has been addressed many times by the group
>> over the
>>>>> years, but unfortunately, all of the posts have only led to more
>>>>> confusion for me. Please help me by clarify?
>>>>>
>>>>> I recently purchased an MX100II Mark II. From previous pianos, I
>>>>> already understand what happens to hammers from constant
>> pounding.
>>>>>
>>>>> I recently purchased GNMIDI so I could batch convert midi files
>> and
>>>>> make them appropriate for the DKV. In the GNMIDI convert volume
>>>>> function, the software gives two choices (radio buttons), one is
>>>>> for "volume" and the other is for "velocity". There is a
>>>> "percentage"
>>>>> choice as well..this is self explanatory and an I believe I
>> want a
>>>>> value of 80% or less.
>>>>>
>>>>> Since I don't want to flat line velocity performance within a
>> song,
>>>>> should I just be selecting the "volume" option?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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