Does this "loud" controller 7 value characteristic apply to MIDI files that have been recorded on a Disklavier as well if unaltered by anyone? Thanks, John On Jan 18, 2007, at 12:04 AM, George F. Litterst wrote: > Good evening, everyone. > > Regarding the message below from yadidisklavier: > > We are talking about 2 completely different volume control issues: > > (1) It is true that you can reduce the volume of the piano using the > control unit or the remote control for your Disklavier. Internally, > the instrument reduces the hammer velocities little by little as you > reduce the volume setting. At some point, it engages the left pedal > which moves the hammers closer to the strings thus reducing the > hammer velocities even further. > > (2) In my post, I was refering to a MIDI message in the the file > itself called "controller 7" or "volume." The possible value ranges > for this message are 0 to 127. The normal setting for this parameter > is 100 for a Disklavier piano. Early Disklaviers (I think Mark II and > before) paid no attention to this message. > > Your instrument is actually a Mark IIXG and it does pay attention to > the controller 7 MIDI message. However, you will not be able to > change the controller 7 value without editing the file itself. > > Regrettably, many MIDI files found on the Internet have the > controller 7 value set rather high. In addition, the note-on > velocities may be quite high. The result is that the file is much too > loud when played on the Disklavier. > > Regards, > PianoBench > > > On Jan 17, 2007, at 6:17 PM, yadidisklavier wrote: > >> My Mark II responds to volume with the dampening pedal (far left). >> Is this going to have a different effect than velocity message? I'm >> afraid this is a whole new can of worms for me. >> >> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "George F. Litterst" >> <PianoBench@...> wrote: >>> >>> Good afternoon, everyone. >>> >>> If memory serves me correctly, the Mark II does not respond to >> volume >>> control (controller 7) messages. It does, of course, respond to >> note- >>> on velocity messages. >>> >>> I think that controller 7 was first implemented in the Mark IIXG. >>> >>> Regards, >>> PianoBench >>> >>> >>> On Jan 16, 2007, at 5:06 PM, James Fry wrote: >>> >>>> I haven't used this tool, but I suspect you want to reduce the >>>> velocities, as this is the individual note loudness. I would >> expect >>>> the >>>> volume control to insert controller 7 messages, which I think >> will >>>> have >>>> the same effect as adjusting the volume control on the piano >> control >>>> unit (on my MPX1Z Mark II this puts the "soft" pedal down) >>>> >>>> Give it a try and see what happens I guess! >>>> >>>> James >>>> >>>> yadidisklavier wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I know that this has been addressed many times by the group >> over the >>>>> years, but unfortunately, all of the posts have only led to more >>>>> confusion for me. Please help me by clarify? >>>>> >>>>> I recently purchased an MX100II Mark II. From previous pianos, I >>>>> already understand what happens to hammers from constant >> pounding. >>>>> >>>>> I recently purchased GNMIDI so I could batch convert midi files >> and >>>>> make them appropriate for the DKV. In the GNMIDI convert volume >>>>> function, the software gives two choices (radio buttons), one is >>>>> for "volume" and the other is for "velocity". There is a >>>> "percentage" >>>>> choice as well..this is self explanatory and an I believe I >> want a >>>>> value of 80% or less. >>>>> >>>>> Since I don't want to flat line velocity performance within a >> song, >>>>> should I just be selecting the "volume" option? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> > > > > To Post a message to the group, send it to: > disklavier@... > > To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and > moderator, send it to: > disklavier-owner@... > > To reach our group's web site go to: > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier > > THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP? > If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too > much mail, go the the web site and change your email delivery > option instead. That will fix the problem, while maintaining your > access to the group. If you insist on leaving us completely send a > blank email to: > disklavier-unsubscribe@... > > Know someone who wants to join? Have them send a blank email to: > disklavier-subscribe@... or give them this link: > http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
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Re: [disklavier] Re: Velocity or Volume?...I must stop the pounding! GNMIDI
2007-01-18 by John Isella
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