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Re: Velocity or Volume?...I must stop the pounding! GNMIDI

2007-01-18 by yadidisklavier

Okay... To wrap this up:

I think the best thing for me to do is to use GNMIDI and edit/set 
BOTH volume and velocity to 80 (or something less than 100).  

Thanks for the attention this thread has rec'd!

--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "George F. Litterst" 
<PianoBench@...> wrote:
>
> Good evening, everyone.
> 
> Regarding the message below from yadidisklavier:
> 
> We are talking about 2 completely different volume control issues:
> 
> (1) It is true that you can reduce the volume of the piano using 
the  
> control unit or the remote control for your Disklavier. 
Internally,  
> the instrument reduces the hammer velocities little by little as 
you  
> reduce the volume setting. At some point, it engages the left 
pedal  
> which moves the hammers closer to the strings thus reducing the  
> hammer velocities even further.
> 
> (2) In my post, I was refering to a MIDI message in the the file  
> itself called "controller 7" or "volume." The possible value 
ranges  
> for this message are 0 to 127. The normal setting for this 
parameter  
> is 100 for a Disklavier piano. Early Disklaviers (I think Mark II 
and  
> before) paid no attention to this message.
> 
> Your instrument is actually a Mark IIXG and it does pay attention 
to  
> the controller 7 MIDI message. However, you will not be able to  
> change the controller 7 value without editing the file itself.
> 
> Regrettably, many MIDI files found on the Internet have the  
> controller 7 value set rather high. In addition, the note-on  
> velocities may be quite high. The result is that the file is much 
too  
> loud when played on the Disklavier.
> 
> Regards,
> PianoBench
> 
> 
> On Jan 17, 2007, at 6:17 PM, yadidisklavier wrote:
> 
> > My Mark II responds to volume with the dampening pedal (far left).
> > Is this going to have a different effect than velocity message? 
I'm
> > afraid this is a whole new can of worms for me.
> >
> > --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "George F. Litterst"
> > <PianoBench@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Good afternoon, everyone.
> > >
> > > If memory serves me correctly, the Mark II does not respond to
> > volume
> > > control (controller 7) messages. It does, of course, respond to
> > note-
> > > on velocity messages.
> > >
> > > I think that controller 7 was first implemented in the Mark 
IIXG.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > PianoBench
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jan 16, 2007, at 5:06 PM, James Fry wrote:
> > >
> > > > I haven't used this tool, but I suspect you want to reduce the
> > > > velocities, as this is the individual note loudness. I would
> > expect
> > > > the
> > > > volume control to insert controller 7 messages, which I think
> > will
> > > > have
> > > > the same effect as adjusting the volume control on the piano
> > control
> > > > unit (on my MPX1Z Mark II this puts the "soft" pedal down)
> > > >
> > > > Give it a try and see what happens I guess!
> > > >
> > > > James
> > > >
> > > > yadidisklavier wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I know that this has been addressed many times by the group
> > over the
> > > > > years, but unfortunately, all of the posts have only led to 
more
> > > > > confusion for me. Please help me by clarify?
> > > > >
> > > > > I recently purchased an MX100II Mark II. From previous 
pianos, I
> > > > > already understand what happens to hammers from constant
> > pounding.
> > > > >
> > > > > I recently purchased GNMIDI so I could batch convert midi 
files
> > and
> > > > > make them appropriate for the DKV. In the GNMIDI convert 
volume
> > > > > function, the software gives two choices (radio buttons), 
one is
> > > > > for "volume" and the other is for "velocity". There is a
> > > > "percentage"
> > > > > choice as well..this is self explanatory and an I believe I
> > want a
> > > > > value of 80% or less.
> > > > >
> > > > > Since I don't want to flat line velocity performance within 
a
> > song,
> > > > > should I just be selecting the "volume" option?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

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