Disklavier

Carol,

I used to have my practical training in Yamaha factory for my 
internship.
I asked the workers there whether they make different pianos for 
different destination, they told me that they DID NOT make piano for 
specific destination, all pianos were made the same. Regarding the 
electronics connection, all connections are not soldered, everything 
is connected by connectors. It cost too much to have technicians to 
solder things...The chance of them making mistake is also high. 

I am not a piano sellers or have anything to do with piano industry, 
I just do not believe that Yamaha makes pianos differently for 
different market. It will cost them too much monies, in addition, 
Japanese manufacturing is very very automated so doing different way 
for different market is utterly impossible.

Ron



--- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Carol Beigel" <thecarolb@...> 
wrote:
>
> Would be nice maybe, but that is not how it works.  It is 
extremely 
> difficult to get Disklavier parts in the US for graymarket units.  
The piano 
> parts are often different as their dimensions are not always the 
same.  The 
> pianos will not hold up very well in dryness caused by central 
heating 
> systems.
> 
> The electronic parts are not UL approved and therefore can create 
a 
> liability for the supplier.  On a gray market Disklavier, many 
connections 
> are soldered and not easy to repair; but their made-for-the US 
counterparts 
> have nice little connectors on both the circuit boards and the 
wires.
> 
> Mostly people who import gray market pianos are smaller operators 
and 
> wholesalers.  They are not bound by Yamaha's service bonds with 
their 
> dealers.
> 
> And lastly, Yamaha is not just one big corporation.  The U.S. 
Division, the 
> Canadian, the Japanese, etc. divisions are completely independent 
from one 
> another.  They do not have a central supplier.  Pianos are made 
differently 
> for these different markets because it costs a lot more money to 
make a 
> piano for a country that has homes whose moisture contents is very 
low 
> during winter.
> 
> In my opinion as a piano and Disklavier technician, I would never 
recommend 
> purchasing a graymarket piano or Disklavier.  Those up front 
supposed 
> savings can be a huge headache if the piano ever needs servicing.  
One good 
> thunderstorm can wipe out your investment.
> 
> Carol Beigel
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "rondisklavier" <setiawansr@...>
> To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 1:46 AM
> Subject: [disklavier] Re: gray market disklaviers (was owners 
manual)
> 
> 
> >I really believe people also can get gray Yamaha parts easily from
> > abroad. If they can import such a humagous piano, importing small
> > parts should not be a problem. Therefore, I really do not think 
that
> > people need to worry about buying gray pianos, especially if the
> > price is very reasonable. I myself just bought MX100II made for 
US.
> > I personally do not want to have unnecessary hazels if my piano 
is
> > broken and need to get parts from outside of the US. But for 
those
> > who have bought gray pianos, I do not think that it is the end of
> > the world if their pianos are broken. The chance of Yamaha 
pianos go
> > bad is very small.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "George F. Litterst"
> > <PianoBench@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Good evening, everyone.
> >>
> >> I don't know the details about how parts are controlled. 
However,
> > my
> >> local piano technician tells me that he is required to produce a
> >> serial number when he orders a part from Yamaha.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> PianoBench
> >>
> >>
> >> On Aug 27, 2007, at 11:51 PM, rondisklavier wrote:
> >>
> >> > --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "George F. Litterst"
> >> > <PianoBench@> wrote:
> >> > I have another question "How does Yamaha know whether they are
> >> > selling parts to fix a gray market piano?". Does Yamaha only 
sell
> >> > parts through their dealers?
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > > If you purchase a piano that was not made for North America,
> > you
> >> > > cannot get parts and service from Yamaha Corporation of
> > America.
> >> > And,
> >> > > it is advisable to keep up the relative humidity in your 
home
> >> > year
> >> > > round.
> >> > >
> >> > > Regards,
> >> > > PianoBench
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Aug 26, 2007, at 11:57 PM, rondisklavier wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > I always have question regarding the statement below. How
> > Yamaha
> >> > > > manufactured for special market, for example US. US 
climate
> > is
> >> > not one
> >> > > > climate. There are as many climate as those of in Asia 
(from
> >> > South
> >> > > > East Asia to Japan). In addition, when I was in my senior
> > year in
> >> > > > college, I had a practical training in Yamaha factory in
> > Jakarta,
> >> > > > Indonesia, and I was not aware that they make different
> > pianos
> >> > for
> >> > > > different climates.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Carol Beigel" 
<carolrpt@>
> >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > > Their
> >> > > > > products are manufactured specifically for different
> > markets.
> >> > The
> >> > > > pianos in
> >> > > > > particular are not interchangeable!
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Carol Beigel
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
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