So what do I do with my Disklavier that I have here in Florida when I move to Phoenix? On Aug 28, 2007, at 8:16 AM, Carol Beigel wrote: > Would be nice maybe, but that is not how it works. It is extremely > difficult to get Disklavier parts in the US for graymarket units. > The piano > parts are often different as their dimensions are not always the > same. The > pianos will not hold up very well in dryness caused by central heating > systems. > > The electronic parts are not UL approved and therefore can create a > liability for the supplier. On a gray market Disklavier, many > connections > are soldered and not easy to repair; but their made-for-the US > counterparts > have nice little connectors on both the circuit boards and the wires. > > Mostly people who import gray market pianos are smaller operators and > wholesalers. They are not bound by Yamaha's service bonds with their > dealers. > > And lastly, Yamaha is not just one big corporation. The U.S. > Division, the > Canadian, the Japanese, etc. divisions are completely independent > from one > another. They do not have a central supplier. Pianos are made > differently > for these different markets because it costs a lot more money to > make a > piano for a country that has homes whose moisture contents is very low > during winter. > > In my opinion as a piano and Disklavier technician, I would never > recommend > purchasing a graymarket piano or Disklavier. Those up front supposed > savings can be a huge headache if the piano ever needs servicing. > One good > thunderstorm can wipe out your investment. > > Carol Beigel > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "rondisklavier" <setiawansr@...> > To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 1:46 AM > Subject: [disklavier] Re: gray market disklaviers (was owners manual) > > >> I really believe people also can get gray Yamaha parts easily from >> abroad. If they can import such a humagous piano, importing small >> parts should not be a problem. Therefore, I really do not think that >> people need to worry about buying gray pianos, especially if the >> price is very reasonable. I myself just bought MX100II made for US. >> I personally do not want to have unnecessary hazels if my piano is >> broken and need to get parts from outside of the US. But for those >> who have bought gray pianos, I do not think that it is the end of >> the world if their pianos are broken. The chance of Yamaha pianos go >> bad is very small. >> >> >> >> >> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "George F. Litterst" >> <PianoBench@...> wrote: >>> >>> Good evening, everyone. >>> >>> I don't know the details about how parts are controlled. However, >> my >>> local piano technician tells me that he is required to produce a >>> serial number when he orders a part from Yamaha. >>> >>> Regards, >>> PianoBench >>> >>> >>> On Aug 27, 2007, at 11:51 PM, rondisklavier wrote: >>> >>>> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "George F. Litterst" >>>> <PianoBench@> wrote: >>>> I have another question "How does Yamaha know whether they are >>>> selling parts to fix a gray market piano?". Does Yamaha only sell >>>> parts through their dealers? >>>> >>>>> >>>>> If you purchase a piano that was not made for North America, >> you >>>>> cannot get parts and service from Yamaha Corporation of >> America. >>>> And, >>>>> it is advisable to keep up the relative humidity in your home >>>> year >>>>> round. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> PianoBench >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 26, 2007, at 11:57 PM, rondisklavier wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I always have question regarding the statement below. How >> Yamaha >>>>>> manufactured for special market, for example US. US climate >> is >>>> not one >>>>>> climate. There are as many climate as those of in Asia (from >>>> South >>>>>> East Asia to Japan). In addition, when I was in my senior >> year in >>>>>> college, I had a practical training in Yamaha factory in >> Jakarta, >>>>>> Indonesia, and I was not aware that they make different >> pianos >>>> for >>>>>> different climates. >>>>>> >>>>>> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Carol Beigel" <carolrpt@> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Their >>>>>>> products are manufactured specifically for different >> markets. >>>> The >>>>>> pianos in >>>>>>> particular are not interchangeable! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Carol Beigel >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> To Post a message to the group, send it to: >> disklavier@... >> >> To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and >> moderator, send it to: >> disklavier-owner@... >> >> To reach our group's web site go to: >> http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier >> >> THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP? >> If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too >> much mail, >> go the the web site and change your email delivery option >> instead. That >> will fix the problem, while maintaining your access to the group. >> If you >> insist on leaving us completely send a blank email to: >> disklavier-unsubscribe@... >> >> Know someone who wants to join? Have them send a blank email to: >> disklavier-subscribe@... or give them this link: >> http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier/join >> >> Yahoo! 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Re: [disklavier] Re: gray market disklaviers (was owners manual)
2007-08-28 by John Isella
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