I guess it will crack into small pieces....:)) It just does not make sense, does it!!! --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, John Isella <jjisella@...> wrote: > > So what do I do with my Disklavier that I have here in Florida when I > move to Phoenix? > > > > On Aug 28, 2007, at 8:16 AM, Carol Beigel wrote: > > > Would be nice maybe, but that is not how it works. It is extremely > > difficult to get Disklavier parts in the US for graymarket units. > > The piano > > parts are often different as their dimensions are not always the > > same. The > > pianos will not hold up very well in dryness caused by central heating > > systems. > > > > The electronic parts are not UL approved and therefore can create a > > liability for the supplier. On a gray market Disklavier, many > > connections > > are soldered and not easy to repair; but their made-for-the US > > counterparts > > have nice little connectors on both the circuit boards and the wires. > > > > Mostly people who import gray market pianos are smaller operators and > > wholesalers. They are not bound by Yamaha's service bonds with their > > dealers. > > > > And lastly, Yamaha is not just one big corporation. The U.S. > > Division, the > > Canadian, the Japanese, etc. divisions are completely independent > > from one > > another. They do not have a central supplier. Pianos are made > > differently > > for these different markets because it costs a lot more money to > > make a > > piano for a country that has homes whose moisture contents is very low > > during winter. > > > > In my opinion as a piano and Disklavier technician, I would never > > recommend > > purchasing a graymarket piano or Disklavier. Those up front supposed > > savings can be a huge headache if the piano ever needs servicing. > > One good > > thunderstorm can wipe out your investment. > > > > Carol Beigel > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "rondisklavier" <setiawansr@...> > > To: <disklavier@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 1:46 AM > > Subject: [disklavier] Re: gray market disklaviers (was owners manual) > > > > > >> I really believe people also can get gray Yamaha parts easily from > >> abroad. If they can import such a humagous piano, importing small > >> parts should not be a problem. Therefore, I really do not think that > >> people need to worry about buying gray pianos, especially if the > >> price is very reasonable. I myself just bought MX100II made for US. > >> I personally do not want to have unnecessary hazels if my piano is > >> broken and need to get parts from outside of the US. But for those > >> who have bought gray pianos, I do not think that it is the end of > >> the world if their pianos are broken. The chance of Yamaha pianos go > >> bad is very small. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "George F. Litterst" > >> <PianoBench@> wrote: > >>> > >>> Good evening, everyone. > >>> > >>> I don't know the details about how parts are controlled. However, > >> my > >>> local piano technician tells me that he is required to produce a > >>> serial number when he orders a part from Yamaha. > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> PianoBench > >>> > >>> > >>> On Aug 27, 2007, at 11:51 PM, rondisklavier wrote: > >>> > >>>> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "George F. Litterst" > >>>> <PianoBench@> wrote: > >>>> I have another question "How does Yamaha know whether they are > >>>> selling parts to fix a gray market piano?". Does Yamaha only sell > >>>> parts through their dealers? > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> If you purchase a piano that was not made for North America, > >> you > >>>>> cannot get parts and service from Yamaha Corporation of > >> America. > >>>> And, > >>>>> it is advisable to keep up the relative humidity in your home > >>>> year > >>>>> round. > >>>>> > >>>>> Regards, > >>>>> PianoBench > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Aug 26, 2007, at 11:57 PM, rondisklavier wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> I always have question regarding the statement below. How > >> Yamaha > >>>>>> manufactured for special market, for example US. US climate > >> is > >>>> not one > >>>>>> climate. There are as many climate as those of in Asia (from > >>>> South > >>>>>> East Asia to Japan). In addition, when I was in my senior > >> year in > >>>>>> college, I had a practical training in Yamaha factory in > >> Jakarta, > >>>>>> Indonesia, and I was not aware that they make different > >> pianos > >>>> for > >>>>>> different climates. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> --- In disklavier@yahoogroups.com, "Carol Beigel" <carolrpt@> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> Their > >>>>>>> products are manufactured specifically for different > >> markets. > >>>> The > >>>>>> pianos in > >>>>>>> particular are not interchangeable! > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Carol Beigel > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> To Post a message to the group, send it to: > >> disklavier@... > >> > >> To Post a private message to Todd Muncy, the group's founder and > >> moderator, send it to: > >> disklavier-owner@... > >> > >> To reach our group's web site go to: > >> http://Yahoogroups.com/group/disklavier > >> > >> THINKING OF LEAVING THE GROUP? > >> If you are thinking of unsubcribing because you are getting too > >> much mail, > >> go the the web site and change your email delivery option > >> instead. 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Re: gray market disklaviers (was owners manual)
2007-08-28 by rondisklavier
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